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In the wake of the riots the only thing that saved one business/home from destruction was the sign "minority owned".
This is what happens when people take what should have been a unifying cause against police brutality, which effects us all of any race, and turns it into a race war where the police officer embodies the whole of the whites and all whites are inherently guilty.
No one is right in any of this, not the rioters, not the people who dismiss the riots, not the people drawing the lines on racial terms and certainly not the police officers.
@freemo It is so sad that arresting a murderer took riots all over Minneapolis. Yeah, it affects us all, but not equally and not everyone is uniting. It is just much more comfortable to ignore the problems.
@vnarek that is sad, I agree. Nor would I necceseraly say it effects everyone equally. There is a big difference between making this a purely racial thing and recognizing it as a plight we all share with one group somewhat more effect than the other.
for the record if we really are going to pick the group that is "most" effected by police brutality as our focus, then it wouldnt be blacks, it would be males.. virtually 100% of nonviolent offenders murdered by police are male, a far greater disparity than black vs white. I am not saying that to suggest we should make this a male problem, but it is meant to highlight the fact that making this about demographics rather than police brutality detracts from the issue IMO.
@freemo Problem is if your social group is not affected by something that much you are less keen to do something about it, which is the reason why this is still happening in 2020.
I am not trying to justify rioting. I would prefer to live in peace, but no one really gave a fuck until this happened. In the long run this is unproductive, looks bad and creates additional hate towards minority groups.
@vnarek well yes and no.. Whites are **hugely** imapaced by police voilence.. Blacks are also impacted by police voilce even more so something on the order of 30% 40% more if we just look at statistics i think (I'd have to go refresh on the numbers).
So claiming a social group here (implying whites) is "not effected" by police violence is just an outright fallacy. We are, less so than blacks, but still more than enough for it to be a major issue.
@vnarek Thanks. by the way I have no issue with blacks pointing out their portion of the plight and how it is unique.. It **should** be a part of the discussion for sure.
My issue is that it has become the whole of the discussion, not just an aspect of it. So far in fact that it seems the white are seen as the aggressor and the enemy in many cases (at least by the looks of the riot).
It should be a unifying quality with many facets that accept that whites are afflicted by this problem just as blacks are (and recognizing blacks take a bigger hit in that discussion)... but thats not how its playing out.
@freemo What do you think about other stuff that happened parallel to this. Like CNN reporter getting arrested for trying to document rioting by the police. Or trump saying that "If there is looting, there will be shooting".
@vnarek Trumps comments are irrelevant to me.. I mean he isnt wrong, if rioting progresses shooting can and likely will come next (we saw that in the last set of riots after all where cops were getting shot).. But I really dont know what making that statement hopes to accomplish... riots mean people die (two already have been killed in them), thats obvious.. what I care about is what are we going to do about it.
As for the the reporters being arrested.. well I think it shows that cops arent really too selective about who they arrest. which might hint at the underlying issue but is kinda minor compared to the whole killing innocent people thing.
@freemo Thanks for the information. I should look up the numbers and not go with the feeling my bad. I thought it was more minor affection.
I would prefer demonstration of milions vs rioting of hundreds all day any day. It would be equally effective and without bad optics.
I agree with your sentiment overall.