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@stux Really? Wow, I never would have thought you could support someone like Biden, yikes.
I honestly would have expected you to lean towards a candidate more in line with european ethics than someone like biden...
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It probably looks that way because your watching paid, commercial, services (most of the news) to tell you a story? what it "looks like" is going to reflect whatever the commercial interests are of those organizations. The goal of news organizations (and this includes Dutch news) is not to tell accurate impartial news, its to make money. You make more money off some narratives than you do off others.
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@freemo Well yes and no. The news yeah absolutely, that’s why they exist these days. But also my whole general input is based on this.. No matter where I go on the web or afk.. That’s why I love these kinda threads! People who live actually in it can educate me😃
That does not mean that all the stuff I see and hear is fiction though, I have my own brain and can also think about stuff
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Certainly a reasonable approach, talk to the people to get your ideas, not the news...
the problem is you are talking about americans here, they are pretty much the bottom of the barrel when it comes to an american seeing the reality around them accurately.
So you are largely getting your information from people who in turn themselves rely strongly on our own news to form their opinions and very fiercely defend and adopt world views out of bias for extremism support of whatever side their own.
So in this case going to americans isnt likely to give you an accurate picture either, simply because americans arent really any better than the news at conveying things accurately in the political arena (or any for that matter).
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@freemo
Gee, thanks. That really makes me want to listen to you.
There are only 2 options that can win the Presidential election. You know it. Everyone knows it.
You keep pushing that Biden and Trump are the same, and it's the weakest and laziest argument out there. Thank God you don't live or vote here.
@stux @mur2501
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Hate to break it to you but I live in both the Netherlands and the USA. I do, in fact, have voting rights in the USA and I do, and will, be voting.
As for making you want to listen to me, not really a high priority for me.
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@freemo
The Netherlands and the U.S. don't have dual citizenship rights. I don't know who you are but you're misinformed lying.
@TonyStark @stux @mur2501
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I am? when did I say I was a dual citizen? How about bothering to read what someone says before you call them a liar over something they never said. Never once did I claim to be a dual citizen.
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@freemo
You would have to be to vote in 2 countries.
Weird thing to lie about.
@TonyStark @stux @mur2501
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When did I say I could vote in two countries? I never said that either.
I guess this is kind of on par with the caliber of conversation I expect from an america who supports the democratic party and biden honestly. It usually boils down to personal insults about some made up shit that no one ever said.
Dealing with americans is like dealing with people in a mental hospital who dont even know what reality is. Like literally every message you have contributed so far is about some imagined fiction of something I said that I never said, and you resorting to name calling over it. Its literally the same as when I try to take care of my friend with schizophrenia and he has an episode.
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@freemo
Lol.
I'm well aware of who you are and your motivations. We'll be waiting for your overseas mail ballot. Better send it soon.
@stux @mur2501