When you hear the word "graph" what do you think of?

@servant_of_the_anime_avatars Set builder notation, while neccesary and something I use often, always makes me go cross eyed, even when it conveys simple sets.

@freemo Yeah, it is also written in the "wrong" direction, if you read it from left to right first you use the terms and only after that you say what they actually are...
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@servant_of_the_anime_avatars yea that clearly doesnt help. But I think they were borrowing from the "feel" of conditional probabilities which uses a similar looking format with a similar flow to it... but not a good move IMO

@servant_of_the_anime_avatars NVM I see what you are saying.. YOUR example is backwards.. and yea it is.. though i do think the standard way of doing it feels backwards too.

Normally you have some set of things on the left of | and then some "filter" or conditions for inclusion on the right.. which still makes me go dizzy sometimes but not as bad as your bastardized form :)

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