imagine enacting a :blobcatphoto: but quinn over misreading a grammatical structure

@icedquinn It wasnt about the gramatical structure, it was about the incorrect facts it inferred (which were still incorrect once you corrected your wording).

@freemo i didn't correct the wording because it wasn't structured wrong to begin with :blobcatpuffyhuh:

@icedquinn Either way, your statement was incorrect.. there is no meaningful link between SAr-COV-2 and the common cold

@freemo i also didn't claim there was :blobcatpuffyhuh:

i said the ones we know about have a lot of mutations, therefore inferred they are highly mutatable.
@icedquinn @freemo From what I've seen, SARS-CoV-2 actually mutates quite slowly, certainly slower than influenza or any number of cold coronaviruses
@allison IIRC it mutates every two weeks but mutations within a particular lineage of viruses mutate slowly.

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@thatbrickster @freemo @icedquinn In any case, most mutations are basically inconsequential. The "mutants" you hear about are just the ones that actually manage to do anything to distinguish themselves from their brethren

@allison

Actually coronavirus and all RNA viruses mutate **faster** than DNA viruses.. its just that recombination isnt considered a mutation so DNA viruses **adapt** quicker without relying on mutations (as in novel genes)

@icedquinn @thatbrickster

@freemo @allison @thatbrickster my concern is that like the initial outbreak, there are only so many cycles before containment is essentially failed.

what is the expectation? are they going to put everyone back in to lockdown every time a mutation is found (which there will always be one) until they can rush a new EUA and just keep people on an indefinite chain of experimental vaccines? :blobcatshrug2:

@icedquinn

Two seperate topics here.. 1) the discussion around how likely and common it will be for the CV to circumvent vaccines and 2) what procedure saves the most lives when there is an outbreak.

To #1, we should be pretty good. Its always a crap shoot but even against current variants like the delta variant the vaccine efficacy is still very higher (88% - 93%). so in reality people are over reacting over it. As long as people are getting vaccinated they are pretty safe

As for #2, lockdowns were never an effective solution even before it mutated. We had contagion guidelines in place long before CV and while quarantine was a part of it, that only carried so far as to when the virus is in a isolated geographic location. All traditional advice when it comes to contagion suggests that once a virus is out into the wild that lockdowns cause greater loss of life and are not effective at reducing the total long term body count.

So considering lockdown as a viable solution has never been a good idea.

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@freemo @icedquinn @allison @thatbrickster
>vaccine efficacy is still very higher (88% - 93%).
post some evidence for this. hint: you don't have any.

correct the CDC and WHO's crap numbers and you'll find that the vaccine is far more dangerous than the virus itself.
@freemo @meowski @icedquinn @thatbrickster @allison why don't you tell me how they tested for coronavirus in this study, was it pcr?

Also, why shift the goalposts? Your initial argument was against quinn's claim that this is already endemic and forever part of society because the rate at which the virus mutates will be faster than the rate at which we can come up with vaccines. This is a fact, SARS-CoV-2 is endemic, it's too late to do anything about it except find a treatment (Ivermectin looks promising)

Granted, your reply was filled with pedantry, grammar nazism, misrepresentations, misunderstandings, and bullshit, so I don't expect anything more from you.

@coyote

Which goal posts did I set exactly? I dont recall ever stating anything about eradication.

@allison @thatbrickster @icedquinn @meowski

@freemo @allison @thatbrickster @icedquinn @meowski LMAO that sure is disingenuous of you, I don't have to explain what you did, you already know. And if you're ignoring my attempts at discussion ALREADY why don't you just put a bullet in your thick fucking skull :)
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@coyote

Not ignoring your attempts at discussion. Though i do know from past discussion you are incapable of being level headed and mature. So I put less value in engaging you to some degree for sure.

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@freemo @allison @thatbrickster @icedquinn @meowski Yes you are, you flat out ignored Quinns first points, you've done it before, you're doing it now. Why are you lying? Kill yourself
@freemo @allison @icedquinn @meowski @thatbrickster since you refuse to address my points I'm going to assume you simply can't.

@coyote

I didnt ignore his first points, I did misunderstand them. It only took a few messages before he pointed out what he meant and I apologized and said he was right.

Just gonna ignore that part huh? And you wonder why i devalued your contribution to discussions.

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