@waltercool there was a workplace story i heard some years ago where someone was mad at the local muslim. he lost his temper and then removed himself from the room (good) but then the muslim decided to follow him in to the office without giving the guy some time to cool down and then uh. yeah. that was dumb. he gets yelled at and then is like "i should file this with HR!" i dun remember if he did or not but i was just thinking "well that's career suicide but go ahead."

you may get the pound of flesh from HR but then literally nobody is ever going to speak to you again

@icedquinn

Is the fact that he was Muslim relevant at all though? Seems the same anecdote leaving that out would have been just as true and relevant.

@waltercool

@freemo being a brown muslim gives him extra HR oppression credits for his workplace claim.
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@icedquinn

Ahh, perhaps, sure. Is there reason to think that was the case here though? Did the guy get reprimanded specifically for being prejudice?

@waltercool

@freemo i don't think i ever found out what happened to the guy. i think the papers just didn't get filed because nothing happened to the other guy either. it's really dumb to persue an angry person trying to disengage from the room.

@waltercool

@freemo @waltercool the ever looming racism card didn't do as much damage as metoo stuff though. people have basically gotten rid of private offices because of the latter. its possible to defend against a racism claim apparently but a woman can just assassinate your character forever with basically no personal risk to herself.

@icedquinn

Me too had its place in the legitimate cases. the problem with everything feminist is they take it too far and do more harm than good despite having good intent.

@waltercool

@freemo @icedquinn @waltercool

Pesky women, always taking their desire to end sexual harassment too far!

@socjuswiz

Yea, i mean, when you start accusing people of rape who didnt actually rape you, literally, then it is taking it too far. This shouldnt be a hard concept to understand.

@icedquinn @waltercool

@freemo @icedquinn @waltercool

And you have proof of that happening on a significant scale, i.e. more than a few unproven anecdotes?

@socjuswiz

There is about as much evidence of false accusations as there are of true ones... The bulk of cases in either category tend to be scarce when it comes to evidence. That is the very problem with treating them as true in the first place.

@icedquinn @waltercool

@freemo @icedquinn @waltercool

And I'm saying that as per Occam's Razor, the more likely thing is that the allegation is true. That's why it's normal for people to consider it true regardless of whether it can be proven in court and turned into an official punishment.

@socjuswiz @freemo @waltercool they consider it true because men are programmed to want to protect women, not because of a mathematical theorem about multiplications.

@icedquinn @freemo @waltercool

That's bullshit, just look at the number of men out there who screech "lying bitch" as soon as a man they like gets accused.

Whether the general public tends to believe the woman or the man has lots of complex reasons. I'm just giving you my reasoning as to why I'd rather believe the woman / the racial minority / the gay person.

@socjuswiz

to be clear I agree with you here. Assuming a woman who accuses someone of rape is lying is equally as reprehensible as assuming they are telling the truth.

One should not draw conclusions based on a lack of evidence.

@icedquinn @waltercool