@freemo
I went with ad baculum, because coercion isn't an argument. There are four lights.
@Parienve I find the more subtle forms of ad baculum to be the most insidious. Yea the whole "Your an idiot ill kill you" if you dont agree with someone makes it impossible to take them seriously. But thankfully its so absurd I dont even consider it here.
The worse form of it goes something like this:
"I support providing therapy for people with inappropriate sexual urges so they dont act on it."
them: "Oh so you are a pedophile sympathizer, I'm sure you are real popular with the ladies"
Basically implying that the whole of society will hate you for your viewpoint, as if how much you are liked somehow effects what the truth is.
@freemo
Agreed. I've seen such forms used to bully people out of what may have otherwise been good-faith discussions.
@Parienve It is sadly all too common. It is a particularly common tactic in extreme conservative and liberal circles where public opinion seems to be of high importance, as well as following witht he majority. Questioning the stance of either group, even as a member will get you a lot of ire.
@djatropine444 There certainly are... In the USA they make up a vanishingly small percentage, but they do exist in very small numbers on either side.
Thankfully outside of the USA such people are far more common.
@djatropine444 agreed entierly. The issue is in the USA that mentality is just far too common on both sides.
@djatropine444 My family has a close history with politicians and have given a lot of money to them. Trump was over my family home for dinner and his kids spent the night back when he was fund raising. Biden also was over for dinner back when he was fund raising.
So yea I can atest these guys invest a lot of time, even with a single person, trying to convince them they arent slime balls so they can get a few 100k
@djatropine444 I have no idea if you are rich honestly. I'm also not sure if Trump is rich, I dont get to see his checkbook nor does my family. For a rich person he does an awful lot of begging for chump change though, so take that for what you will.
But yea your right that they are generally very different people behind the scenes than on TV. Its all for the cameras mostly.
I will 100% support that wrestling match.
@djatropine444 They cant, by virtue of their followers, agree on liking anything, no matter how much they want to. So I am certain at least one of them would absolutely hate it :)
@djatropine444 I wouldnt say they enjoy national ddebt exact. More like they couldnt give a flying fuck about national debt, or national anything. They have absolutely no interest in fixing problems. They care if they are elected, and if their party wins seats. Nothing more, nothing less.
@djatropine444 I agree, the issue isnt with the politicans, politicians and their behaviors is merely the symptom. The problem is with the american voter for sure.
@djatropine444 wait till you find out the fact that the whole reason he got into politics was to put a stop to desegregation.
@djatropine444 Bernie will invite you over to diner to one of his four houses and when you arrive Bernie will go "So what did you bring for us to eat?"
@djatropine444 You should check out "The Bernie Man Festival". It is pretty much the same idea as the Burning Man Festival but instead of burning a giant effigy they burn a pile of money.
@djatropine444 STOP, i am waiting for food to arrive. I am too hungry for this shit.
@djatropine444 All houses can be waffle houses if you dare to live the dream.
@djatropine444 I dont think there is a waffle house within a day's drive of philly honestly.