Here's Dr. Fauci in 2020 talking about COVID-19. He said more than 20,000 cases per day was unacceptable.

Now we're having about 200,000 cases per day in the US...

Crickets.

@Pat It’s as if COVID in 2022 is dramatically different from COVID in 2020….

@inanna

Its almost like its a completely different strain or something ::shrug::

@Pat

@freemo it stopped being more deadly when it became the democrat strain lmao

@icedquinn

>" it stopped being more deadly when it became the democrat strain lmao"

When Trump took off his mask after barely recovering from COVID-19, the media went crazy.

Now Biden goes on a national TV talk show, takes his mask off in front of a large live audience and nobody says anything. It's even more dangerous now with the more contagous strains, and he knows better. But Biden ordered the media to stop talking about COVID-19 in February 2022 so it has nearly zero coverage now.

@freemo

@Pat

I agree with the politically motivated treatment of covid... more deadly, not so much. I am running a company that is in the COVID arena and we rely on sampling people with covid. We struggle to even get samples at all right now.

@icedquinn

@freemo @Pat it's normal for respiratory diseases to become more infectious over time. it is not normal for them to become more deadly.

also, perhaps people are dying because all attempts at supplying treatment have been suppressed at all levels.

NIH own trial database shows ivermectin is quite useful. good luck getting a hospital to give it without court order.

@icedquinn

>"it is not normal for them to become more deadly."

The COVID-19 virus has already demonstrated that it does that -- mutates to become more virulent, more deadly.

@freemo

@Pat

Thats false. While Omicron was, intitially, far more virulent it actually decreased significantly after its initial introduction to the population. As of February (the last good analysis I saw) omicron was in fact many orders of magnitude LESS virulant than delta was at that same time.

As for death rate, no, the death rate went down significantly not up. Partly due to it being easier to treat than other varients apparently.

@icedquinn

@Pat

To put some specific numbers on it the transmission rate (Beta) in february for omicron was ~0.06, for delta in feb it was ~0.11

@icedquinn

@freemo @icedquinn

My understanding is that Delta was the most virulent. So it went from wild-Alpha-Beta-Delta. That's mutating from a less lethal strain to a more lethal strain. It has demonstrated that it can mutate to a more lethal strain.

Also, I think Omicron is more virulent than Alpha (not sure), which is the lineage for Omicron strain (Omicron came from the Alpha strain, not via Delta).

Epidemiologist have warned about the posibility of COVID-19 mutating to a very deadly strain.

@Pat @freemo every virus can do this. it's part of how in marek's disease the vaccinated chickens actually increased the deadliness of the disease.

if a virus grows too deadly then it kills its natural host and is punished and so the evolutionary pressure against killing the host before spreading is created.

if the hosts are protected from dying by synthetic immunity, nothing stops that strain from mutating upward and shedding.

this has already been observed in prior diseases.
@Pat @freemo before someone but quinns and whatever, no it wouldn't happen in a perfect immunity situation / it comes from imperfect, non-sterilizing treatments

@icedquinn

>" it comes from imperfect, non-sterilizing treatments"

This is exactly what they are doing with the COVID-19 vaccines. It's about 44-50% effective at preventing infection. It doesn't stop the spread, it just helps to keep people from dying and getting very sick.

The virus could mutate into a strain that avoids the vaccine, kills more people, but still allow people to spread it before they die.

And how would people react to a strain that was 50% lethal? All the fools would say it was just the flu and they'd die. Others stay home from work and supply chains would stop. Then Rome falls.

@freemo

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@Pat

Actually recent strains already appear to circumvent the virus. Delta, and I think omicron, both showed viral loads in vaccinated people that was equivelant to unvaxxed. This strongly indicates it had little or no effect on stopping spread.

@icedquinn

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