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@rdaily Also more to the point (and can be seen even in your chart if you look carefully), mass shootings **increased** by about 30% immediately following and during the assault riffle ban (clearly it didnt work)... once the ban was lifted mass shootings continued to rise at about the same 30% rate.

This would suggest that the assault riffle band had absolutely no positive effect on mass shootings of any kind.

@rdaily @freemo looks pretty flat to me until ban overturn. But in any case the data are useless without info on how many of those shootings involved assault weapons that were acquired during the ban.

@ambihelical Not sure how you can look at that and think its flat, but ok... I do agree on your point about assault rifles though.

@freemo The ban corresponds to a number of years where there were zero deaths. So I guess I am integrating the curve in my mind. But honestly, thinking about it a bit more, it's probably the # incidents (not deaths) AND the use of assault rifles in the incidents which would be the more useful data to show. Showing the total deaths is more about the effectiveness of the planning (for lack of a better term, ugh) more than what guns were used. 1999 was Columbine for example, which is almost 1/2 of that red peak.

@ambihelical saying its about number of incidents is debatable.. depends if hte argument here is that you can kill more people with an assault rifle or not... and yes there were a number of uyears with 0 deaths both before and after the ban was initiated..

@freemo

It seems it took a couplr of years after the ban was initiated, seems to me like it is mostly unrelated to the rise(except the ease of getting weapons that it)..

I know that more guns do not necessarily mean more shootings(example, in israel pretty much everyone who drafts at 18 will prob shoot an m16, and a lot get to walk around with them home and everything), but this nation clearly shouldn't have guns(or knives(or anything that might kill, they seems pretty muxh unhinged somstimes))

@RustyStriker it is expected and always takes a few years for the inevitable rise to hit. Thats because when bans are passed there is several years before those guns get off the streets.

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