Historians have a word for Germans who joined the Nazi party, not because they hated Jews, but out of a hope for restored patriotism, or a sense of economic anxiety, or a hope to preserve their religious values, or dislike of their opponents, or raw political opportunism, or convenience, or ignorance, or greed. That word is "Nazi."
Historians study their motives, but there is a broad understanding: their motives don’t exonerate them.
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@JuliusGoat Excellent words, something we evryone should consider, whether they voted for Biden, a man who started his political career by being pro-segregation and faught to keep segregation alive right up until it started costing him votes... or Trump, someone who was brutal on immigration (not exactly racist but I cant think of anything racist he did, maybe someone has a better example?).... Either way, most of this nation is a bit too close to supporting the wrong people it seems.
@freemo @JuliusGoat Really? You can't think of anything racist Trump did?
https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racist-racism-history
Good find, I knew someone would fi d something more racist than what i mentioned, thanks.
Still doesnt seem to hold a candle to bidens history, but clearly some good examples.
@freemo @JuliusGoat In their time in the White House, the idea that Biden is more racist than Trump is absurd.
One metric: who did they actually put into positions of power? Biden put in a cabinet that looks like America. Trump chose almost entirely white men (who make up only around 35% of the US population).
I believe Biden chose career professionals while Trump chose cronies for their personal loyalty to him. Perhaps you disagree. I'm sure we could argue endlessly about which picks were "pandering to minority voters". The point is that Biden opened doors while Trump closed them.
You like to advocate for letting populations judge for themselves who is supporting them, and of course I agree. There's a reason 90% of Black voters chose Biden over Trump.
Whonsaid anything about "In their timr in the white house".. biden has a history that is far more racist than trunp... in the white house being racist didnt suit his agenda, second being racist cost him votes he instead switched tactics and used black people as pawns. He was racist but playing the "look im not racist look at all my black friends" game becsuse he benefited. Just because he started using black people didnt make him lest racist, just meant he was strategic and hid it.
Also keep in mind both people are family associates. Both Trump and Biden have had dinner and slept over my familys home.
>> Whonsaid anything about "In their timr in the white house"
In another branch of this thread, you said "he still keeps ... making low key racist comments...
Dude hasnt changed a bit and is clesrly just playing the game."
I'm saying that Biden HAS changed, but Trump hasn't.
Is Biden devoid of racism now? No, none of us are, and it's not an all-or-nothing thing. Even if you're right and Biden is just following the political wind, Trump doesn't even do that much; he is openly more racist than the electorate.
I'll say again: 90% of Black voters chose Biden over Trump. They know.
Biden has changed his actions, fgor sure, not his racism.. He went from abusing minorities to using them to his own advantage... He realized that being racist lost him votes, so he decided instead to manipulate people and minorities and use them as fodder for his own career... he has not changed a bit.
It is obviou because he doesnt even care if he picks quality minorities or not.. he will pick harris, who has an abusive record towards women and is a HORRIBLE choice, **just** because she is black.. he sees them as pawns that he can exploit to make himself paint the "im not racist" picture while staying just as racist as always... and you fell for it.
Yes his little racist comments show it, like how he talked about obama being "The first mainstream black person who is clean cut and respectable" or something like that.. this is something he said not that long ago.
Remember "You aint black if you dont vote for me"... the mans racist is as transparent as it gets.
>>he sees them as pawns that he can exploit to make himself paint the "im not racist" picture while staying just as racist as always... and you fell for it.
So are you saying that 90% of Black voters "fell for it"?
Odd you should cherry pick one specific minority race, and ignore the huge portion who didnt vote at all.
The number of non-whites who bothered to show up and support biden is something like 40%, not a majority at all... and yes I am saying something like 40% of minorities that were motivated to vote absolutely fell for it.
@freemo @JuliusGoat Biden also got solid majorities of the Latino and Asian votes.
I focused on those who voted because we have no data on those who didn't.
Of coirse we have data on those who didnt... we know they didnt feel compelled to go vote for him.
And demonstrating them him exploiting minorities tonwinnminority votes worked for him only proves my point, he does whatever gets him the votes.
The pictures youbshared of his cabnit tells it all. A person who isnt exploiting minorities woukd be picking people because of their skills not for being token black people. So youd have a staff that roughly resembles the generalnpopulation. Which is 12% black, so about one in 10 of his staff should be black, give or take... thats not what we see and it very obvious he was picking minorities simply for the sake of being minorities and thus exploiting them to compensate for his racist past and pander to them tonget their vote... and his manipulations and exploitations work, exactly as expected it.
It worked so well he even got to fondle a few women and girls on stage as thry try tonpull away and as he would forcibly hold them by the arm... more than once.
It amazes me everyone fall for such a transparent game from the guy who was all about segregation when it got him votes too.
>Of coirse we have data on those who didnt... we know they didnt feel compelled to go vote for him.
They didn't feel compelled to go vote for Trump either.
Again, I'm not denying Biden's racism. I'm simply asserting that Trump is worse.
Correct they didnt vote for trump either... thsts the point. We have two racist "nazis".. trump and biden, these people voted for neither, as any rational person would.
It is hard to compare to Bidens level of racism, then and now, no Trump isnt worse in that regard... Trump, overall, not just talking racism, is certainly onpar or maybe worse than biden. But in the racist department Biden is king and anyone who voted for him went full Nazi this election (whether they knew it or not)
Whether you voted for the guy whonwas 100% Nazi, Biden, or the guy that was 95% Nazi, Trump, is kinda irrelevant... if you supported either your on the side of Nazis.
@peterdrake
Also keep in mind that he wasnt even in the whitehouse yet when everyone voted for him.. so the whole using minorities as pawns and exploiting them to his advantage is not something anyone had a chance to witness yet.. There is a reason, even among minorities, his approval rating is absolutely abysmal now. People have seen his racist nonsense and are starting to realize he didnt change at all.
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