@freemo its an unbelievable shit what people do to each other because of religion.

@generationX

What they are doing to eachother has very little to do with religion, even though it may appear that way ont he surface.

@freemo @generationX

Totally agree.

Even the Crusades were really more about trade routes than religion. If everybody there turned suddenly atheist, this would be continue the same way.

If retaliation were to make something right, they would have been at peace at least for 50 years by now.

@jgg @freemo I strongly disagree. Almost all conflicts in the world are fired with religion. Without stupid religious feelings the fire would stop burning. Maybe people will find different reasons but for now its religion.

@generationX @freemo

History shows religion as a mixed bag. Sometimes, reinforces conflicts, sometimes, deflate them and even unify peoples.

Wars are always about economy: land, resources, workforce, political power...

Politicians have used religion as any of the other tools they have to lead/fool people: nations, revenge, fear, ancient grievances, false fatherhoods...

@jgg @freemo it a nice view that religion was used by the powerful, the bad to control people. The small little innocent religion. But what else would they use without the existance of religion?

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Political parties seem to be doing a wonderful job at controlling atheists in almost the same ways (functionally speaking) as religion. At least in the USA, the parties havent quite gotten that bad in other countries (though they too have their own things that are used to take advantage)

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