@admitsWrongIfProven Well I got to pick the keys and I went through a lot of samples. So it should be no surprise its perfect for what I want. That doesnt mean I'd recommend it or you. My top priority was being as loud as possible and my second was the highest weight. So I wound up with objectively that (after a lot of research). IIts the Box Navy by Kahle if you want a loud one with a lighter touch then you want the box jade