@wholemilk @jeff

So non christians dont care about the future, only themselves?

@freemo @wholemilk by definition, yes.

@jeff @freemo Yeah see, this is what I mean.

Apparently Christians can't be greedy, and non Christians can't do any generous work.

@jeff

I mean, nonchristians have values beyond themselves... christians by definition act out of a desire for personal reward in the afterlife... So technically of thet wo groups it would seemt he chritians are the self-serving ones.

But that is hardly a debate of value for me to dive into.

@wholemilk

@freemo @wholemilk Christian gnosticism is the ideology of multi generational delayed gratification. by definition those who value such are holding a Christian moral compus.

@jeff @freemo What is multi-generational delayed gratification?

@jeff

As someone who studies the Gnostic traditions heavily I cant say I agree with this view. While its a fine interpritation and im glad you have one that is more forward looking, I would not say this is centrally defined in christian gnosticism.

@wholemilk

@freemo @wholemilk of course not, but it was absolutely the first to do so in a palatable way and it remains the one sole owner of this lesson.

@freemo @wholemilk the traditions of Christianity were not defining the lessons explicitly spelling them out clearly, they were an emergent phenomena which was a side effect of leaving that up to interpretation while giving a guiding direction instead of carrot and stick corrective strikes

@jeff @freemo See here comes the schizo rambling.