I remember some evil humans doing the same in the last World War

Talking about sinking to a new low

I meant: "The United States of Germany" sorry

@stux

Is your objection to execution by gas, or execution at all?

I agree that the death penalty is wrong. But if you are going to have the death penalty gas is probably the most humane way to do it.

@freemo At all, it's super hypocrite

But gass makes it a lot worse..

That's a nazi thing

@stux

Well we certainly agree that execution is bad,..

But how is gas worse simply for being a "nazi thing"... wouldnt using another method where people suffer more but its not a "nazi thing" be far worse? Like are we really prioritizing morality by association over actual morality based on suffering?

@freemo Nicee!

Well, it's about the method in general

I'm sure a toxic cocktail or pills or whatever must be a much humane method but not gass

When a government executes prisoners it's not a developed country

@stux

> I'm sure a toxic cocktail or pills or whatever must be a much humane method but not gass

What? No, thats a horrible way to die. It takes hours, you get sick, you throw up, you have time to feel the effects... god that sounds like torture.

Nothing personal but this is why toxic identity politics is so bad... caring more about associations and how something looks to the point of torturing people to kill them rather than the humane way to do it simply cause "the nazis did it that way" is just, self destructive way to reason about the world.

No no no, please, dont use that logic ever again im begging you.

@freemo yikes

@stux You have to see the harm.. you just suggested a method of effectively torturing people to death instead of using gas simply because gas is associated with nazis, you completely abandoned suffering as a top concern because you followed the logic of "Hitler liked birthday cake so birthday cake is bad" (just the more emotional variant of that argument).

@freemo
You argue based on false premises.
"Veterinarians in the US and across Europe have ruled out nitrogen as a euthanasia method for most animals other than pigs. Laboratory studies have shown it can cause distress in many species and scientists largely recommend against it on ethical grounds."
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/jan/24/supreme-court-nitrogen-gas-execution-case
Humans should not kill. It's called civilization.
@stux

@W_Lucht @freemo @stux

I think we kill too few. If you let criminals run among your people, you have just told your people that they are worthless and deserve to be exploited.

@amerika

Why do you assume not killing a criminal equates to them running among your people. Presumably anyone who would be worthy of a death sentence would be getting life in prison instead, so regardless they wont be running among our people.

@W_Lucht @stux