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Why would I want a company to be forced to support you for the rest of your life if you get a long-term illness.
There is a problem here if a teacher cant afford the right insurance to take care of this, a very real problem. But the idea that a person should have infinite sick days and that its on the company is not the direction to go.
@lovelylovely Its a very european attitude that has infected the american way of thinking sadly, this idea of companies as surrogate parents, yea its bizarre.
Dont get me wrong as someone who runs a company I do run it in a very generous fashion. But this is by choice and would never want to see companies forced into it.
@freemo @lovelylovely
Sick days being something the company pays for makes very little sense. Especially beyond the first week or so. Obviously there needs to be infinite sick days since that's just how some illnesses work. And obviously it can't fall on the company budget, needs to come from a national insurance for everyone.
I agree with everything you just said except the last part "needs to come from a national insurance for everyone."
While I do agree there is a problem that needs solving both with healthcare and struggling families in general, I do not agree this is the solution. As someone who has spent much of his adult life expierncing universal health care as well as American healthcare I can honestly say I wouldnt wish either of these on my worst enemy, no I dont see **that** as the solution.
Would be happy to discuss what I think are good solutions, but I also dont want to derail the convo if no one is interested in that topic.
@freemo @Gurre @lovelylovely Most civilized countries have universal health care and support for disability and unemployment - the US has these systems too but in the US they just call it LOTS OF $$MONEY$$
Yup, and as I said as someone who has been the victim of universal healthcare systems I would not wish that on my worst enemy. Not that I am promoting the american system either. As I said the only civilized solutions are solutions that people arent talking about or even aware of.
@freemo @frankcat @Gurre @lovelylovely If there is a health care solution that better than having lots of money I and other mastadonians would be most interested.
Sure. Its call co-op based insurance and healthcare. If all healthcare was co-op based youd have a real solution.
@freemo @frankcat @Gurre @lovelylovely Thanks - best if you pick a rich co-op that can keep its members. Well run government schemes like Australia’s Medicare ( or Norway etc) are a nationwide healthcare co-op which works well until people foolishly vote for heartless and cynical conservative politicians who think that poor people who get sick should crawl away and die. Poor people voting Republican is like chickens voting for KFC. #KentuckFriedMedicie
@freemo I absolutely agree and just don't understand it myself.