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@freemo Hey, I'm one of those folks. There was a pretty big difference between his campaigning/debating skills in 2020 vs 2024, which is what led us to change our minds. He's just not the man he was.
And yet, I had no trouble seeing the obvious dementia in 2020 and was clearly correct. The only difference is the dementia progressed to the point that it got worse and at a certain point no amount of denial will get you through it.
But the fact is, reflect on that. Clearly people were screaming he had dementia, the fact that you didnt think he did and it turned out he did suggests perhaps you were blinded to the truth and couldnt see what was obvious to everyone else.
The real takeaway here is if you couldnt even tell a person with severe rapid onset dementia has a problem, what other issues are you unable to see due to biases? Perhaps you should rethink how harshly you criticize someones opinion of your candidate as well if you were blocking people who said that.
@trinsec Werent you one of the ones who were pretty adamant about him not having dementia. I mean you didnt block and were always polite about it. But I do remember you arguing pretty strongly you didnt see any signs of dementia no?
I'm curious now that the party itself has dropped him due to it, have you changed your mind?
@freemo@qoto.org @louis@ingenthron.social Huh, what? I don't recall. Was it a convo of like 4 years ago? If so, he wasn't that bad back then. He was fairly functional for a long while.
He might have accelerated dementia now, it can come on rather fast. It sucks. People get stubborn and self-defensive when they feel they get attacked due to forgetfulness, it's part of that disease. It's only going to get worse, I feel for his family.
Now look at Trump, he's clearly showing signs of dementia for a long while now and people still worship him. :P
Yes this would have been 4 years ago. You argued he didnt appear to have dementia, I claimed he did. While he may have been more functional you must admit you were incorrect in your assesment he didnt have dementia.
My argument was not that his dementia at the time made him unfit but it was rapidly progressing and thus unfit for a 4 year term, which was true, and at the time you defended against.
Trump shows signs of stupidity, but no he doesnt show signs of dementia of anykind, just plain old idiocy.
What if he has #Parkinsons AND #Dementia?
You don't meet with a #Parkinsons expert for several months if you don't have #Parkinsons.
@realcaseyrollins @freemo @sergeant @trinsec ...you do if you're working on legislation to help fund Parkinsons research. π€¦ββοΈ
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/legislation/2024/07/02/bill-signed-h-r-2365/
Or if you want everyone to think you have parkinsons instead of dementia. Lets not forget the lie he pulled to everyone in the 2020 election that "oh no its not dementia I just have stuttering problem", no one but the democrats bought that for a second.
@freemo @louis @sergeant @trinsec Neither explanations are satisfactory. If #JoeBiden either a) was drafting #Parkinsons legislation with a #Parkinsons expert, or b) wanted the public to think he had #Parksons instead of #Dementia, his team wouldnβt have pushed back on this story so hard even though it was true:
I have a lot of experience with Parkinson (worked with it clinically and my mom has it).. His symptoms dont remotely line up with Parkinson, nor are his motor control issues consistent with parkinsons.
So any speculation aside even a casual familiarity with Parkinson would tell someone this isnt it.
@freemo @louis @sergeant @trinsec Maybe someone else in the family has #Parkinsons?
That is very possible.
Onset age is typically >60.
It is possible Biden has early symptoms of parkinsons, early enough they arent showing publicly. But if that is the case it would be likely unrelated to his dementia.
Also keep in mind there is a type of dementia called parkinsons dementia where he has the symptoms of both with a common underlying cause (lewy body dementia is common)... so if parkinsons is involved it is clearly alongside dementia.
