If you thought Canada was bad for euthanasia, you haven't seen anything yet.
This creates a deeply troubling ethical dilemma. Providing such large economic incentives to have the government fund killing its own citizens could easily shift the focus of healthcare policy towards promoting MAiD as a financially attractive option, rather than ensuring that vulnerable individuals receive the care and support they need. Such a system could foster a culture where ending life is seen as preferable to providing adequate care and support, which is dangerous for any society. The government could view MAiD as a cost-saving mechanism, which could lead to policies that implicitly or explicitly encourage individuals to opt for assisted death. The expansion of MAiD in this context risks devaluing human life, particularly among those who are most at risk of societal neglect. This is a dangerous and ethically fraught direction for any policy, as it implicitly encourages a “license to kill” mentality, which is highlighted by the fact the government savings increase substantially using non-medical contract killers. In conclusion, while the potential financial benefits of expanding MAiD are considerable, the ethical costs are far too great. Allowing vulnerable populations to opt for assisted death as a means of saving money for the state undermines the core values of medical ethics and morals. Policymakers must carefully consider these implications before moving forward with any further expansion of MAiD.
@gabriel I already think it's going that way - and not that I want to help it - "they" / capitalism is here for EVERYTHING so it's just about some of the people 'just' realising it now.
Like the term “license to kill” and “license to make profit" is similar.
The rest of the details somewhat I don't even need to read of debate right now - not ditching it either but they have complete power / they created capitalism and can slowly take it away (while we have to try making stronger people as product and not just hold on to booing them).
Just how I feel and tying people into our main work AND caring for others to make them better = better for all. #FREESCHOOL
@freeschool
I know what you're getting at here, but it is a bit ironic you're focusing on capitalism. The linked paper discusses how state-funded healthcare & government spending create incentives for mass slaughter of (vulnerable members of) the public.
Maybe, it's not actually about the systems themselves but the people who are allowed to run them without any accountability.
Caring for others is foundational, but so is responsibility.
Canadians love to show how virtuous they are while casually ignoring how much bleaker everything gets, and what that means about what should be done.
@gabriel Ah ok, maybe I did miss something... The slaughter is and has always been there in my eyes (as the #economic #warfare / #financial #war as it's own slaughter / blood drain / siphoning) but people don't always see as clear or feel it even though their tired / abused etc.
I see that as worse but yes it's ALL bad (not demoting or comparing it though financial encapsulates it all). It's all continuing from World Wars and before... easy to see what they were doing and willing to do only 100years back and watching history! So it's about what we can grow today...
#TLDR.... You're one of the good one's -
So it's not even about bleaker or worse as you say in reply - it's almost just about finding the best of us and pedal to the metal with those with whatever they care about
Let's chat more in a #Jitsi sometime also even around these points or what we can do something about....
THE REST IS OPTIONAL
We did not get much further in the mind so this is why direct-education is the better #directaction as I see it - not just saving weak (unless I see how and then believe me I'll do it).
The more #positive and what propels us in the now is in a lot of ways it's own power even without trying hard so I'm against things or demoting other ways - just I'll get round to all like a hopping rabbit that seemingly doesn't care unless you see it's weaving things and ready to use it later).
The slaughter of weak or fragile is MUCH is something I can't see exactly what to do about right now so more it's about weaving other things and keeping it in mind even though not really seeing a way now or no people to show me either (I always think about things like this of course).
To find a way is through education / talking together and drilling those mines of thought and existing passions I think.
EASY!
Because if education doesn't catch up then that's really where we lose #quality people (that's what we really #need).
Saving people would help in some in cases quickly and immediately #reverts back to the very same bad after saving... It's harsh but if you've seen enough movies it's like saving the baby more than saving the other adult member who have better skills / own resources already.
Imagine the impossible #brucewillis #melgibson movies :)
We should not go for babies directly or just get to them after we get to ourselves towards getting a bit better / tooled up individuals, and forming as a #team somewhat first (not even waiting for #mass or #criticalmass already even though that is made from small #teams / #friendships then #federating properly).
Just 2 a time - I'll honestly take me and you Gabe occasionally and give you best I have got.
Don't mind!
But alone... or with baby / too much guilt - not really.
Pairing 2 + 2 + 2 would work... we can #increment #trust...
But who is thinking like this ? ❓
⬆️ Honest #Question ⬆️
#TLDR.... after that answer !
You're one of the good one's -
so it's not even about bleaker or worse as you say in reply - it's almost just about finding the best of us and pedal to the metal with those with whatever they care about (assisting morally / technically) even without 'all-in' trust together... but starting to do that is massive... it's #cohesion ... very under-estimated even though we have all these range of people and passions - all mostly alone!
READ MORE IF YOU WANT
TOTALLY OPTIONAL - ABOVE IS ENOUGH!
So the rest here on #Fediverse are so-so (so far) and #lukewarm / never serious to change... because they don't even reply or reply in short or many things my attempts for years (all my life say) - fine. And those that can I've rolled with... made some great stuff - great !
Just something we can #measure and #moveon from - I could beg them again / show them / prove it but I have to take their answer and whole demeanor and position on it... and find others or help create those willing to reinvent life somewhat as a relationship / friendship instead of hating things.
Venting, fine,
Time spent on #Trump and #Musk hashtags, fine
(again you can measure all this and watch profiles as they say "I don't have time" or even portray a kind of friendliness but can't do it / fall into holes themselves after 3rd reply as if internet isn't distant and we have to fill in the gaps or dead air )
#WillPower - Just the #Will is needed to push past all that doubt (again measurably) and live and breath what we need to look for as growth.
Can they reply? Y/N ❓
Can they do 2nd reply? ❓
No... ? Maybe move on after a reminder... or accept short replies as the real answer and real politics (which is "I don't want to say no but I'm not going to even bother getting into it or just one line back about each thing - I'll just skip it all instead"...
Many good people literally do that - "don't have time" is a big cover up - unfortunately too easy not to see online talking about presidents not even in their own country! Not doing much to create or repair #friendship.
So for time for betterment and tiem for others or whatever it is, we can do that and not be just watching things as entertainment or triggers - #participation
People who accept they have their #compartmentalised #tech / #academia / ... job and that's the main. The are too satisfied. The dissatisfaction should be yelling within them to say "fine I'll try with anyone else but I'm not letting #system or #putin or #trump get away with this separation).
I've asked even people setting up tech for charity and the like and asked them (in person) about participating - doing circles / betterment... and IT'S NO! (like I rephrased the question and it was like Tech-only even though REALLY NICE guys but shows the face doesn't have to be bad).
They too need to do a hell of a lot more than install tech and fuck off leaving people!
I wrote a lot more Gabe but I hope we can catch up on your / my #jitsi instance sometime and grow more... I'd appreciate your comments either way - but I'm guessing there is a limit somewhere to my long text...
:)
@gabriel If you need more jitsi instances use these - no account needed as host:
https://jitsi.katia.sh/123456
https://jitsi.freifunk-duesseldorf.de/123456
@freeschool I apologize for the tone. It's hard to express without touching on painful feelings about things.
I will try to get back to you on the rest but I know your heart is in the right place.
My Jitsi has been broken since they required configuration for auth. But I've been using the FSF instance since I'm an Associate member.