@cathill And I'd say proportionally or to a large extent, my experience has proven:

⚫ People also want to be consumers... very much so.

✔️ ... want to have people lead them

✔️ ... want to avoid any #responsibility to others or with nature first-hand themselves,

The actuality is rather more towards even more distance than #DIY and very much some opposites to what they make claims about other people doing afterwards as taking their decisions away from them...

Their #inaction would only lead to others taking advantage of them - via their consumption or pretty much anything since they gave up so much space / gave up participating with #humans and prefer companies, computers or mechanical work / stopped contributing in many areas of #life (including trying itself as the main thing actually).

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People wouldn't want to grow *some* of their own food even if they had been given land to grow on free. And they wouldn't even share it. Many still can't even if they have lots of land they need help with (I've bee on some).

This and many topic examples show why it is left to other 'leaders' and it's not the leaders' fault! Just too tempting - what else to do with such people?

When it comes down to the daily evidence of how they spend their life it's quite clear everything is fine. It's other people's problem.
This is on many class levels, not just bottom that legitimately have less disposable time / energy.

Even as an excuse somewhat or bad usage of time, things in life should not be mentioned in their family and maybe "because we didn't do it" / was stuff before my time...

⬆️ (some of that admittedly IS legit but less and less over time as it's not even trying to sort it and completely out of participation, while enjoying exotic spending / etc and not being more careful / funding bad things that includes supermarkets too as part of the sort war relative to all material and similar levels of processes)

This is not even a guess but real experience of people's un-dedication... to #discussion (forget freedom but just talking!) and so nearly everyone I know and saw in person has a lot of this - even online - they don't want to try even discussing it.

Within *various* circles, even those in-person people who I worked for for free, with families, NOT INTERESTED IN REAL CONVERSATION.

Famous online people here on Fediverse ... NOT INTERESTED -

YOU... probably not interested...

AGAIN STOP HERE AS IT'S NOT AGAINST YOU - JUST MORE FACT THAN FICTION

#Workaholism or doing the same things in one way is for the way and burying their head in the sand... again I'm not hating here really!

Just not growing plants or people
- material work mostly which always has similar consequences of the #mind(s) falling behind whether you're a #doctor doing material work processing patients for capitalism while it all goes down or family life where they watch Disney or want to keep it that way until again like us at 30 / 40 we actually realise what previous #generation did.

Might sound like I'm bitter or #autistic ETC but it's the same pattern of ignoring things / tricking kids in the end!

So as #consumer or #financial contributor to whatever latest label is, you always get to things like #fascism as the softer consequences add up more and more as if there are people looking after you or actually care more than giving you lunch so they can eat you for dinner.

The citizen's go back to #banks and use them knowing it's #bad maths and spreading #debt and they are root of war money, they still answer me "that we need them" - oh yeah sure you wouldn't even change that !

They say bad things are needed in order for their neighbour or other terrible not to bad things while it's bad in itself even before neighbour has a chance... [sure we were and still are backwards but this only holds as back more as crude penalty to behaviour].

They too easily #bow or #enslave themselves out of #politeness - even want to pay more money - a reason to live perhaps.

They being individuals or any category - it's near everyone not willing to do a % of time.

Any logic but "getting out" and complaining as a victim to TV / Internet is about the most of it - And despite some legit reasons (even needing time) it's really the opposite like digging hard after telling them that the hole they are digging digging for #rich people who will only do the same but faster to them... ⛏️ 💰

Not even walking out of corners or trying to give a bit of help or self-helping themself or family.

Some people are just fine how it is and not turned into anything like you say.

They already are and chose the #dystopia whether it's #Cyberpunk or otherwise - it's created by their #inaction which is silently screaming every day.

Just look at fediverse as best #example of us - hardly incrementing #trust deeper #friendship i.e. or federating to involve more and do better.

It's software for social but without the promoting / showing people how to do it - so they don't.

Again not hate but great empty software because it's missing the main point of promoting togetherness / events / despite #Mastodon perhaps never saying - maybe just #cats and #caturday #decentralised - was a social movement for that? I asked the founder and it wasn't his current focus despite me saying I'd do it with a bit of backing...

The clever people are just into 1 or 2 things and don't want to hear or listen to much else.

Plenty developing #tech
Plenty in academia and other paid #compartmentalisation

None are developing better people - maybe because they are not paid to.

Instead people are knowing it's too circular and not broad or bridging enough because it's THEMSELVES !

Not planting anything.
Not progressing people or #mindset.

Happy as consumers and 'job'.
Everyone else is not important.

Let me know if I missed something there else bookmark it! 🔖 #FreeSchool 🏅 🏆

Happy to hear from you or audio talk about it also.

Prove me wrong a bit... Pictures are a bit random to put a bit of a light spin on post...