https://dailycaller.com/2019/10/25/political-protect-kids-james-younger/

@realcaseyrollins
Ah yes, dangerous gender transition. This seems like a rather biased source.

@jump_spider They're biased but they're not wrong

@realcaseyrollins
What's dangerous about transitioning?

@jump_spider Firstly, it often consists of genital mutilation, and sometimes includes taking a dangerous level of opposite-sex hormones. Apart from that, people who transition often regret their decision later and wish to reverse it.

But some people have the procedure done and are fine, ignoring the self-injury aspect. Although it's morally wrong, it's more important to address these procedures targeting kids. If a kid has these procedures done, his or her bone plates will not develop properly.

@realcaseyrollins
What academic research has lead you to suggest that most of us regret medical transition?

In what moral framework is medical transition "morally wrong"?

What is the functional difference between someone who pays professional to surgically remove part of their cheek such that their teeth are visible (a well known though obviously extreme form of aesthetic body modification) and genital reconstruction surgery? Is one person's idea of self-mutilation not clearly another person's idea of self-actualization?

What medical research has lead you to suggest that hormone replacement therapy for medical transition dangerous?

Have you considered that a desire to detransition may have less to do with personal regret and more to do with how those of us who do not "pass" even after medical transition are treated by others?

To be frank concerning children who wish to medically transition, because they have not reached the legal age of majority and medical transition being still very much bound in legal approval, how would you suggest a child to be able to pursue medical transition at all? A 16-year-old girl can choose to have unprotected sex and there are many who believe she should accept the lifelong consequences and responsibilities that may result from her choice; why should that be different for a transgender child?

@jump_spider

Health risks: https://youtu.be/Eaq6kbk0LZ4 (skip to 3:51 for the scientific evidence)

On regretting sex transition surgery:
https://news.sky.com/story/hundreds-of-young-trans-people-seeking-help-to-return-to-original-sex-11827740

Also chopping off a penis is different than ripping out your cheek. Sure, you've lost a part of your body that helps you eat by keeping food in your mouth, but at least you can still eat.

If you get castrated, you cannot procreate. End of story. It completely removes a bodily function. It's more akin to getting two feet amputated.

@jump_spider Also being from America and supporting freedom I do this people should be able to "transition", no matter how unethical that might be. The age question is a good one. I see three logical views:

1. Age of consent. (At a certain age, you can make all self-affecting sexual choices.)

2. When puberty is over. (This means at around ages 10-14 for girls and 12-16 for boys. They know what being their birth gender is like and can decide if they don't like it.)

@jump_spider

3. When their brain's developed. (This means around 25 y/o. One can now decide if they want their brain to remain the same or be affected by "transition" surgery.)

@realcaseyrollins
Strictly anecdotally, many of us report emotional and general psychological trauma experienced from the effects of natal puberty. With respect, we know exactly what it's like to be the gender we are; puberty typically only affirms it. If a child expresses genuine interest in suppressing their natal puberty, why should a parent not be able to consent on their behalf to puberty hormone blocker treatment, the same way a parent can consent on a child's behalf to get a lip piercing?

@jump_spider First of all, again, hormone blockers before or during puberty permanently and radically affect the growth of bone plates. It's no small thing to mess around with those. Parents are supposed to protect their children from physical harm.

Secondly, no, a child does not completely understand what it like to be an adult male or adult female. So, it is most fair to allow them to grow up into full maturity so they can know what it's like, and then decide if they don't like it or not.

@realcaseyrollins
An 18 year old doesn't understand the ramifications of being a legal adult, yet is and learns through life experience. Transgender adults grow up from transgender children; why should a trans child have to "prove" they understand an experience, namely being cisgender, that they will never have, before they are allowed to medically transition? Who is the gatekeeper for self-actualization?