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I see good ol' joe is already at it trying to start wars.. Not even 2 months in and he is already bombing Syria... was a nice 4 years there for a minute without too much talk of bombing and wars.. biggest complaint anyone had is Trump engaged in peace talks people disapproved of or some nonsense... and now were back to bombing the world..
As much as I hated Trump it really hasnt taken Joe long to prove he is the worse evil of the two :(
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@freemo you do realize trump bombed other countries too right?
@louiscouture notice the wording "without too much".. you do realize that isnt the same as "never" right?
@freemo one bomb every 12 minutes in the trump admin https://www.truthdig.com/articles/trumps-military-drops-a-bomb-every-12-minutes-and-no-one-is-talking-about-it/
@louiscouture Are you trying to sell me an agenda or make an objective fact? If your trying to make a case relevant to the discussion you'd have to compare democrat (obama is all we have enough info on, but joe was part of that) vs Trump. If Obama is dropping a bomb every 6 minutes then that paints a pretty different picture.
Based on your choice of links and the nature of the article it appears you arent trying to sell objective facts to reach the truth but rather an agenda you already decided on before you even linked the article.
Now I can tell you trying to look at the facts over the last decade or so I have watched the numbers of each (and I mean objective numbers, not some propaganda piece which is all that link is)... while some of it is hard to quantify I can say I've seen consistent descalation out of trump compared to Obama. The only figure I know off the top of my head come from the figured published by the US department of defense. On Average Obama had a little under 300K troops deployed overseas per year of his presidency. By comparison Trump had only an average of 175K, quite a bit less.
So yes, what numbers I am aware of paint a pretty clear picture of trumps deescalation (even engaging in peace talks Obama refused to) with Obama clearly more aggressive.
Though really, you need to check your bias, it seems 100% of the time your engagement is always "Trump is a bad guy you should hate him more, here is some propaganda piece as to why"... why is it never "Here is some objective data that touches on both sides, lets try to discuss whats going on here and find the truth"... do you understand the pattern of how you go out to cherry pick data specifically to try to deface trump as a clear agenda as your default causes crippling bias?
@freemo I do not know what data you have access to, send it to me if you can. All I’m saying is what my non data scientist research told me is that trump did not stop the bombings of the other countries, and peace talks only occurred near the elections. I’m not implying that Obama or Biden aren’t war criminals, I’m just implying that trump is a war criminal just as much as Democrats, therefore he can’t be considered as being a better alternative on this in particular.
@louiscouture The only data I have was what I stated, and it was direct from the office department of defense published figures. As I said its a hard thing to quantify and thats the best measure I can think of anyway.