Governments do what we need to do (give to other people) but not by stealing and pocketing of our donations at the same time...
Right now we're anyway paying ourselves and others with our own energy... and funding the rich to oppress us.
So I suggest reducing the bad money people and holes in between, and more creating reasons to spread things among ourselves
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@freeschool Its not the rich who are oppressing us. Everyone oppresses us, rich, poor, middle class. People are just assholes.
@freemo But not equally oppressive or equally assholes.
There is an equation / structure that does the compound damage so you or I as assholes isn't much but those who are rich massacre in finance anything compared to that, or even hammer / delete / erase years worth of good people's work. It's not equal also as the 'who has more resources to be an asshole' and following more structurally enforcing things and threatening using that system does way more damage that your 'we're all equal' sounding stuff seems to be saying...
Though for sure people are born erroneous - we just need a system and more people that lean the tree toward better ways (and not pure-profit ways which is not even neutral and opposite to accepting our own imperfections and magnifying it)
@freeschool Rich people have more power, so for an equal measure of asshole you might argue they do more damage on an individual basis. But there are is also far fewer of them, so collectively this balances out.
In reality I'd say the huge masses of poor to middle class assholes do equal societal damage overall when compared to the very small number of rich assholes.
@freemo @freeschool Far between, but wealth accumulated more than the lower half of the total population. It's moving towards upper class and lower class, the middle class is diminishing. Wealth transfer has already been confirmed, the upper class gained 30% on average since the start of Covid.
That means there are even fewer rich assholes and even more poor assholes. So doesnt really change the crux of the argument here.
That said uneven wealth distribution is not the issue and never has been. The true measure should be the oppertunity afforded to the poor and middle class and their quality of life.
Lets not forget more than half of the wealthy people started out in life as poor or middle class.
@freemo @freeschool That's not what I read, unless you are born into the top 1% you aren't going there statistically, ever. There was a time when this was possible, back when the tax on the rich was around 70%, and you had effective laws to counter cartels and monopolies, that time is gone.
What you just said is not contrary to what I said.
The vast majority of the rich were born poor and middle class. But there are very few rich people, ergo, your change of becoming rich is still low.
Lets face it, the rich represent (mostly) the people who are the absolute best at making money. Not everyone can be the best, most people cant be the best, but being the best is open to anyone no matter how you started.
@freemo @freeschool They aren't the best at making money, they use their wealth to make it impossible for the rest of us to get there, the game is rigged the way I see it.
That assertion is in direct contradiction to the fact that the overwhelming majority of the rich started as poor or middle class.. so you point is simply false.
@freemo @freeschool I actually don't mind a system where some people make more than others, it doesn't even seem unfair that if you work more you get more. The difference is when one person have more wealth than a whole country, and since money means power, that's wrong in my opinion.
