The vaccination question is simple:
Is the government allowed to dictate medical intervention?
+bonifartius 𒂼𒄄
@skells technically, almost always yes. in the end they have the bigger guns (legal _and_ physical).
@bonifartius are the principles of government by consent no longer valid
@skells i'm disillusioned by how the whole covid thing is handled. i think the governments are _really_ happy that now the population is essentially in shackles, and i think save an uprising it will be this way for the foreseeable future. it's only convenient to have the not vaccinated as scapegoats now. as long as they exist, anything can be done because of the pandemic.
it would be really interesting to see what would happen if really everyone is vaccinated and covid doesn't go away (as it probably won't). who to blame then? how to keep the population in half-assed lock-downs lasting for several months then?
would be really interesting to see a game theoretical analysis of the whole situation, but i think it's too complex.
in the end, anyone with power will abuse it. i believe it's just in the human nature.
@bonifartius we have a responsibility, to ourselves and future generations, to strip power from those who abuse it
@skells
> we have a responsibility, to ourselves and future generations, to strip power from those who abuse it
you'll only end up in a dark prison cell. just look at assange et al.
i think you only can choose not to play along with the way that our societies are by trying to be more self-reliant. the real power governments have is that many people rely on them instead of providing for themselves.
it's just incredibly hard to do, as the state-oligarchy complex is build with the intention that you have to rely on them.
@bonifartius "If ye love wealth better than liberty,
the tranquility of servitude
better than the animating contest of freedom,
go home from us in peace.
We ask not your counsels or your arms.
Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you.
May your chains set lightly upon you,
and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen."
@bonifartius and yes, I wish I could find a less pompous way of expressing that