Come on! That is again a bit too gloomy outlook. I always saw Germany as a tanker. It moves slowly, but once it changes direction (which takes a lot of energy!), it's hard to stop.

It took a war for Germany to recognise that something needs to change with its military, now it did (I only hope it will be able to stop one day before that historically frightening overcompensation kicks in).

It took a while for Germany to even start the Energiewende and then it went on. Is it as fast as we wish? No. Is it done already? No. I have some hopes there.

And I see many such small things Germany gets right. Maybe not on the first attempt, but eventually.

In my view, Germany has one big power: it's hesitant, but once it commits to something, for better, or worse, it follows through.

@FailForward how do you think they're gonna deal with the variance of renewables?

@skells What do you mean exactly? You mean that wind/solar are available intermittently?

Honestly, I don't know. My expertise is elsewhere.

Maybe it sounds dumb, or such, but I don't believe it's a job of a deep expert in one field to spout smarts in another. I learned to trust that the smart-asses with PhD the government employs for this
figured it our sufficiently. But I that I don't mean they 100% know the solution, I am fully aware that to an extent this is a bet on a future, while we recognised the past to be untenable. Let' see...

@jwildeboer

@FailForward @jwildeboer solar and wind are available intermittently, so when they go down the grid goes down unless you can store that energy.

without solving this problem renewable energy initiatives are just expensive, politically correct boondoggles

@skells @FailForward @jwildeboer cept for the fact of te developent they bring to the comunities where the factories and clusters are implemented

@11112011 @FailForward @jwildeboer can say the same, perhaps more, of nuclear, hydro etc.

@skells @FailForward @jwildeboer just saying its not just subsidies bad, there are a factors on the equation

@11112011 @FailForward @jwildeboer I don't have a problem with subsidies per se (assuming that they're well executed...) just that their use needs to be strategically thought out, particularly given the Russian question.

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