@freemo Are there many variations of the copperflate font? Because I imagesearch around, and so far I've not spotted any with the first 2 legs of the w glued together.

@trinsec depends who you ask. But in practice, yes, there is a lot of variation that will be called copper plate. The funky w is fairly traditional and used less and less. But the main types are round hand, Italian hand, engraver's and engrosses variants.

@trinsec Here is an engraving showing English round hand (which is the original copperplate and purists will claim the only correct form) and Italian hand for comparison.. As you can see the w matches my style in all 3 variations of roundhand and Italian hand.

@freemo The n and w are eerily similar. However, in the example given (which looks like it's sttttuttttterring, heh), the w has an ending that is up there, and the next letter starts separately next to that ending... in your writing the w is merged into the z (or the other way around), I think that should've been more separate. See how the w and the x are still distinct in the examples, not merged. In your case it would read wonzers, although the r seems pretty off to me as well. Looks more like the symbol for micro.

Sorry for the antfucking. :P

@trinsec yea in italian hand in this example they do look seperate. But in both round hand examples the w continues into the next letter. Now sure if the split in italian hand is typical (have not noticed it before).. but regardless my version is closer to roundhand than italian hand.

@freemo Even in roundhand I'm seeing the distinction. In my idea you should've added a little curly hookymooky whateveryoucallit between the w and the z. Something kind of like this that I wrote down quickly. Stupid pencil broke a few times.

@trinsec We would have to consult an expert beyond either of us to really answer this one... I cant say if that would be traditional or not.

@freemo Well, that's what I'm seeing and interpreting as in those examples you gave me. :D

But sure, call in an expert. I'm actually curious!

@trinsec in both examples the w transitions into the x with the little 360 I already did but I dont see any additional hook added on top.

@freemo The little 360 is actually the ending of the w there. You made it the start of the z instead, which means the w became an n.

@trinsec I would say its where the w ends and the z begins. Its both :)

@freemo But then you have no dinstinction between the w and the n. :) So how do you know you're writing wonzers or wowzers?

Call in an expert! Pawn Stars style, within a few minutes someone gives us the backstory of it, if it is from the civil war, whether this is right or not, and then gives us the value!

@trinsec hahaha ill ask my professional scribe about it..

@trinsec from my understanding though the distinction comes fromt he curly'q in the first place.. the "hook" is what makes it a w. check out the example where an n has no "hook" where the w does.

@freemo But then in my eyes your z is invalid.

Just wondering, which of the forms is the r? I can't place it in any of the examples. I feel you've got one too much flourish there. The curve's the opposite, basically.

@trinsec The r is another topic that is a bit complicated. There are two forms of the r one called a full r (which i am using here) the other called a half-r (which tends to be more common as the full-r is a bit antiquated)

There are specific rules as to when to use a full vs half r.

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Why'd you go for this font? ;)

@trinsec I find it to be one of the prettier flex-nib fonts around. Also the most traditional which is cool. That said I am not opposed to playing with other flex hands, including ones I've made up myself.

@trinsec Here is a letter I wrote back when i was practicing different styles. I wrote each page in a slightly different hand. The first pace is a slightly more modern style of copperplate with my own style variations, the second is a more traditional copper plate.

@freemo @trinsec That’s very beautiful. I’m also trying to make my everyday handwriting more copperplate, but it’s still really far from what you’ve got there. BTW it looks like you’re using a flex nib of some kind. I’m just using a boring but consistent EF nib from kaweco.

@freemo Is it not the other way around? Because the 2nd image has a readable w there? So the first should be the traditional one?

But what I'm actually spotting in the first image is: You wrote 'write' with the w and the r clearly dinstinguishable, just like I suggested you should do with the w and the z.

Oh, I think the way you added them to Mastodon made them reversed order. But my above observation still stands, the curly thingy of the w is of the w itself, and the r gets its own start.