@skyblond What network issue?

@trinsec Connecting steam from China. The workshop part has already been blocked, the steam services are not stable in China. I'm concerning a pacman -Syyu will take forever to finish 😂

@skyblond Well, you can just get to the Linux environment then, and just use Linux as is? The Dock would still make it easier to do that. I've tried putzing around with the trackpads and the Linux desktop.. it does work but damn is it annoying. Hence the Dock. ;)

@trinsec frankly speak, arch is not my dish, I mean "Syyu" for a system update, why?

I do hear people talking about the interface, it's really good in terms of Linux desktop. But I'm still scared by some package that only available on valve's server and take forever to download and update (and I strongly refuse to mess around with iptables to get proxy working, such a pain).

I'll try to convince my friend to order one and see how it works

@skyblond I'm used to Debian-based systems (like Ubuntu) but I suppose this is a good way for myself to learn more about Arch itself. *shrug* Hey, Linux is Linux I hope! :D

@trinsec I do tried arch 5 or 6 years ago, following the guide, installing my system line by line, then ran into a circle where I need internet to download driver, but I need driver to access the internet, and all I had is a laptop using weird network chip. LOL

Since then I never touched vanilla arch again and tried manjaro several times. Now I have settled with opensuse. I think for normal desktop usage, the distro isn't that different, until you have to open the terminal and do something.

@skyblond Yeah, see, I have a device which has everything ready for me. I don't have to install it. 😁

@skyblond @trinsec probably a good way to solve bouncing around is to have a docker with a VPN you can use as a proxy. That's what I have at home when I need to circumvent country limitations (not China mind you). Haven't used it with my deck though

@skyblond @trinsec as to the arch bit, I'm quite a fan of Manjaro. Have run through a manual arch install which was fun as a one off, but it felt like going back to the 90s. I prefer an arch base to canonical these days as it is more flexible.

@wihou @trinsec Manjaro is great, solving a lot of issues (mostly driver issues) during installation. That's a pleasant experience from my memory, despite it takes forever to install packages from aur due to connectivity issues in China.

@wihou @trinsec I do have proxy setup for my linux server at home (the fixed not moving machine). The proxy only works with tcp, but some game requires udp to work. And my setup is almost hard-coded (using iptables or nftables) and for a moving device switching between different networks? I can already dream the nightmare 😂

(Vpn is not working in China since 2012, now we have custom software to cover the proxy)