@freemo I’m not really sure. HIV / AIDS sounds like a terrible disease, but children, how expensive is that ?
Well as someone who is gay, I have natural immunity against kids, so I’ll vote hiv.
(This is a joke btw and maybe I would get children when I’m older perhaps through adoption)
@louisrcouture I'm all for adoptions, gay or straight its a wonderful thing to do for a child.
My view on children is having a child is the msot selfish thing a person can do on a planet with this many people and this many problems, especially when adoption is an option.
I love kids, i just dont think having biological kids is what the world needs right now.
I think its good for people to have 1 or 2 kids per couple but not more.
Its good to have genetic diversity.
@twotwenty @freemo yeah I don’t think this is going to be very practical to me to try to conceive biologically with my future husband
The world has plenty of biological diversity, i only see that as an excuse. As long as there are too many people (and that has been the case for way to long) then anyone who has a child is acting selfishly and for the harm of man kind.
Ironically if people stopped having kids it wouldnt take very many years before people could resume again in theory.
Its not an excuse. I have no children and probably will not have any.
if people had 1 or 2 children per couple the population would go down as well and there would still be enough young people to take care of the old. not enough young people can actually put a strain on other young people.
North America hardly has enough to maintain its own population, Canada depends on immigrants to sustain our population.
There does have to be some children regionally.. Then there is who is having babies and good old who's genetics and cultures survive if there are large gaps in certain cultures because they are so nice to others and others that dont care about feelings.. one culture is interrupted that's not great either, kinda like idiocracy if you have seen that beginning of that?.
I do not doubt your good intent and I agree that population is an issue but its more complicated then our desires for depopulation.
to simply say "having children is selfish" is over simplifying.
if everyone stopped having children there would be a age gap and put alot of burden on young workers with to many old to take care of...
maybe it is selfish to want to live beyond the age of 60 ? of coarse I dont believe that either.
yes but look at the birth/death rates in canada, our population goes up from immigration mostly... Im not saying they have enough people I mean new children to sustain the population without immigration.
I cant particularly speak to canada really... I usually just picture you guys as a baren wasteland of ice with like one populated town where everyone gathers for the poutine and to tell wholesome stories of how they saved moose for various disasters while you sip cups filled with maple syrup.
I think its true to other nations like the US to its population has been going up but fairly slowly from its own long time ethnic groups and mostly immigration and their having children that brings the rate up so much.
its a complex issue and my personal belief is that people should have 1 or 2 children because traditionally children take care of the old or other peoples children do.
I think having more then 2 children is selfish. but I'll never see less then 2 as selfish.
I see that as sustatinable and good.... I think a larger problem is how much we all feel entitled to.
north Americans carbon foot prints can be 10 times that of others.
As long as there is at least 1 kid that needs adoption or 1 too many people in the world then having even a single kid will look selfish to me honestly. That said there are different levels of selfish too.
and no im not suggesting everyone just stop having sex and it drops to 0. As I said the rate right now is way too high even if its going down it isnt going down nearly fast enough. We dont need to get to 0, but we do need to lower the rate, and as long as its too high then every single baby born is selfish.
@twotwenty
North america hardly has enough? Dude the homeless and jobless are overflowing int he streets. We cant even give work to the people we have let alone sustain more people.
@louisrcouture