To understand the state of , and US society more broadly, a person has to realize that the process against isn't merely two camps who want the guy found innocent or guilty after a weighing of the evidence.

No, it is as if there was a murder trial where one side believed they were having beers with the purported victim as the trial was going on.

It's not a matter of legal technicality or weighing preponderances of evidence or reasonable doubt; it's a matter of the country being divided over fundamental fact, here whether a person is alive or not.

It's not a political division. Sadly it's a reality division.

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MAGA supporters don't actually believe that the election was stolen. They never did. Look at the testimony in the Fox case. They admitted that the whole thing was just a ruse.

Nobody believes the election was stolen. They are just lying about it as a tactic to overthrow democracy.

They all know that Trump is a crook and they don't care. And they are willing to lie about anything -- absolutely anything -- in order to eliminate democracy and install him as an autocrat.

There is no difference in belief about facts. There is a difference in belief about the value of truth and democracy.

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@Pat sounds like you have not talked to a lot of MAGA folks.

I have. I know quite a few of them personally.

Your claims here aren't in line with the discussions I've had with them, and honestly just sound like you are promoting negative stereotypes.

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