@faab64 @iran @israel

Is Germany supplying the arms or ammunition? The UK seems to be despite legal warnings from our own top lawyers,

Where will be hit next, once Israel has finished with Iran?

@zleap @iran @israel

Total world domination. Starting by controlling the supply of energy.

Next is Venezuela.

@faab64 @zleap @iran @israel if they win here first. we'll see. i don't think they've got it. they will cause untold pain and damage to iran. but the ir and the iranian people will come out on top.

these are the people who couldn't beat the taliban. now they're up against the entire resistance. shit for brains president and prime minister don't know what they got themselves into.

@jollycooperation @faab64 @zleap @iran @israel honestly at this point israel should cease attacks, at which point the Iranians would do the same. the problem is that now it is about ego and about palestine. netanyhu cant stand the thought of admitting defeat. and even if he could, the immediate aftermath of this conflict must address palestine and the expedited genocide that has occurred since they attacked Iran.

@argumento @benda @faab64 @iran @israel

If you can over throw the current regime and install a sensible government who is firm and fair this will go some way to bring anout change.

You cannot have open borders, but at the same time why do people seek to enter the US?, if you had better equality then there would be little need for economic migration, other than for say skill sharing, there would be little reason for refugees, again as there is equality in wealth.

You need to bring people in to take up certain jobs, so make this easier for people to do so, with the right visa you get afforded rights, (you may need to sort out better worker rights and unions though) So there are proper benefits to proper channels

At the same time, you cannot have people with criminal records coming, (and you certainly can't have people who have committed crime, esp serious crime as your president) so a proper robust immigration system is needed. That not only protects US citizens but ALSO protects other migrants and that includes from each other. Leave your problems at the border.

There needs to be a revolution yes, but not just against
trump but big tech and social media giants who spread mis information and lies.

@argumento @benda @faab64 @iran @israel

Bad wording here

If there was better equaity continent wide there would be less of an issue wanting to move en-masse to the USA.

@zleap @argumento @benda @iran @israel

You can't enforce regime change if there are no strong forces to take over.

And what gives western countries the right to demand and enforce such policies?

And US economy and most of the western capitalism is built on exploitation, without cheap labour, the whole economical model will collapse.

@zleap @argumento @benda @iran @israel

Undocumented immigrants have helped most western countries to have a comfortable and functioning economy, something that they refuse to admit, but US is starting to feel the consequences of it and will see massive drop in labour intensive products and significantly higher prices.

@faab64 @argumento @benda @iran @israel

I understand that, I am not anti immigration in that way just trying to see if there is a way to make it better for everyone.

Surely having teh right documentation means you have some benefit over working in the shadows.

Deport people found guilty of serious offenses. Not people who just want to work, and earn money for family and live normally.

@zleap @faab64 @argumento @iran @israel from a politcal/electoral/campaigning position you aren't wrong. and one party does campaign in such a manner. neither one delivers. we need a singular issue to bring the vast majority of americans together on and its not a small task. that issue is either anti-war or anti-billionaire/corporation. and even then, they will politically or literally assassinate the candidate/group that makes any inroads with such a message.

@zleap @faab64 @argumento @iran @israel the american empire is rotten to its core. its founded on the genocide of one people and the enslaving of another. followed by a few centuries more of that all over the world.
we inspired the nazis with our border policies and jim crow laws.
we're backing today's nazis.
the system is sick. the electoral system doesn't leave room for the change that's necessary. unfortunately.

@benda @faab64 @argumento @iran @israel

I think we are stick in a catch 22 here.

Most people in the US now apparently get their news from social media, this would be fine if you can guarentee the quality of the news feed(s) which you can't, couple that with AI generated articles, which as we have discussed on here, us usually not of a very good stanard.

If you add in a lack of education in terms of being able to think, apply critical thinking to things, and seeking out several news narratives, and forming better conclusions (all of which takes efforts)

Billionaires need to maintain the status quo to remain in power, they can do that my manipulating news feeds, and taking data to generate advertising revenue,

They also need to help politics maintain the status quo so nothing then changes, as you said voted in to power then not actually DO anything.

So unless people realise what is going on, and also get there is a better way of doing things, nothing is going to change, demanding another election to vote in another party who will also fail and the cycle will start again.

Even with Cambridge Analytica and other well noted breaches of data, nothing has shifted people away from Meta platforms.

I just hope the EU goes through with the massive fine for the various breaches Meta have been found to be guilty of, and follows through with enforcement.

Ideally they can put the money in to the EU developing alternatives to US corporate solutions. We need that as the UK / EU is being isolated by Trump.

@zleap @faab64 @argumento @iran @israel yeah that kind of thing is real. if its not too late. if a significant portion of the strong economies boycott the u.s., then there could be change. but unfortunately, i think the issues of israel and russia will keep those states (the gov'ts) from pursuing that. it would have to be up to the people to take and fund the initiatives.

@benda @zleap @argumento @iran @israel

Don't count on it. Iraq invasion and 4.5 million deaths didn't change the minds of the general public.

This will be forgotten very very soon and Hollywood will make a movie about the heroic act American air force saving the world from nuclear anhiliation.

@faab64 @argumento @benda @iran @israel

So are undocumented migrants exploited?

@zleap @argumento @benda @iran @israel

Whoa dude, you can't be that fucked up stupid not to know the answer to that question.

@faab64 @argumento @benda @iran @israel

I would say yes they are, however, here in the UK zero hours contracts are considered to be exploitation, hence the promise to end them (which has not happened yet), some people they prefer zero hours contract so would think otherwise.

If people choose to come to the US to work illegally they know they are going to get a less optimal deal, so they must choose that, and accept that is a price to pay for being able to live and work in the USA.

So perhaps not everyone sees it as explotation in that way.

@benda @argumento @faab64 @iran @israel

+1

@benda @faab64 @iran @israel

I agree, however Starmer was sidelined the other day so the UK is clearly not seen as a very 'good' ally by Trump, however the UKs idea of security is a total joke.

Boats still coming over daily
Memembers of Palestinian action just walked or rode in to RAF Brise Norton and spray painted on a RAF refuling plane.

Note: Brise Norton back in the 80s held the US Nuclear missiles

The Government response is to ban the group, duh that won't stop people, armed guards on the entrance and perimeter of the base, with the power and ORDER to either shoot or detain anyone entering.

But we won't do that.

The UK is pathetic, which could be a reason Trump sidelined us, Trump is also dismissing the EU with regard to negotiations, this suggests that all this a huge ego trip for Trump rather than a genuine attempt to bring about peace and lasting change.

@zleap @faab64 @iran @israel oh yeah, i do not think he's motivated by "peace and lasting change". everything is about the benefit to himself. might it might save iran.