Are there actual arguments against or is it just oldschool neckbears whining because someone finally organised the absolute anarchy forsaken by both God and Man that daemon management was before it? The only ones I've heard are somewhere along the lines of "bloated cause uses 2M more ram" or "onoez not only does it impose an actual API, but it dares to provide useful tools too!".

@Amikke

It's just a f*cking power grab by the developers, with no reason for existing other that that.

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@Pat it's an amazing daemon management and init system, organising that mess is a pretty damn good reason for existing. What do you mean by power grab though?

@Amikke

Power grab as in taking away user's freedom to: choose their own init system, or to freely and transparently edit and organize the startup of their systems.

One of the ostensible reasons for systemd was so the system would boot more quickly. But my systems boot up more quickly when I use System V init rather than when I try to use systemd.

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