@moffintosh > wage slavery does not exist in china
what is 996 :neocat_drowsy:
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@moffintosh @icedquinn
>nooo you misunderstand, the wageslave life of 996 even worse than in any developed capitalist countries is fine because it's calculated by Marx teachings

Western commies simping for China is the wildest thing.

>capitalism is making us work too much, we need to change the system
>that other system has people work even more but it's ok because it's not capitalism
>sure it might be less efficient and result in worse quality of life but at least we can work more and lick the party's boots

@Amikke @moffintosh if they were sure of their people they would not need authoritarianism

morally correct people do not need fear to rule :neocat_floof_mug:

@icedquinn @moffintosh it's almost as if people don't want to work on the things that are actually needed and need some pressure, so every system that tries to get away from having to work to enjoy life ends up with having to work to not go to a gulag, funny that.

@Amikke @moffintosh problem is then what do you do when you only need 300 people growing wheat and the other 18,000 people don't have a job.

but they're not allowed to do shit because only the job-havers are considered valid humans

@icedquinn @Amikke You... cut the work hours?
I mean that's litterally a non issue in a planned economy

@moffintosh @Amikke planned economies don't work :neocat_googly_shocked:

adam smith capitalism does, until it gets inevitably replaced with crony capitalism/neofeudalism. well, i say does, except for this part: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullshit_Jobs

@icedquinn @Amikke
> planned economies don't work

They do thou. Simply stating otherwise don't change that.

@moffintosh @icedquinn yeah, worst that will happen is millions of people will starve and the system will collapse, but they can do it and it wouldn't be the first time.

@moffintosh @icedquinn you are coping if you think that system can do that without suffering major consequences and somehow didn't do it yet. This is on "let's give everyone money so that we'll all be rich" level of not grasping the economic reality.

@Amikke @icedquinn Because it can. So far all you did was post "noooo it's mean and ugly" without explaining shit

@moffintosh @icedquinn what you're claiming is that:
1. the system can cut down work hours and improve the people's lives
2. they can do that without suffering major consequences
3. they didn't do that yet because uhhhhhhhh reasons but they can any day, really

Do you not even consider where those hours come from? Is planned economy some magical realm for you, where you can just make anything happen without any basis in reality?

@Amikke @icedquinn
> the system can cut down work hours and improve the people’s lives
Yes
 > they can do that without suffering major consequences
Yee
 > they didn’t do that yet because uhhhhhhhh reasons but they can any day, really
That's not what I am saying

> Do you not even consider where those hours come from?
From the same exact place they come now: workers. The difference being that labour isn't appropiated by the bouj for profit, but by tge people for the people

@moffintosh @icedquinn honestly amazing, it's as if the reasoning part of your brain was completely replaced by repeating socialist mantras. I feel like I'm talking to a bad chatbot.

@Amikke @icedquinn Idk what I expected from a lib. I guess the racists just start allucinating da joooz by this point

@icedquinn @Amikke That ain't why marxists don't want to immediatly abolish the state though.
Hint: the spanish civil war

@Amikke @moffintosh
> Western commies simping for China is the wildest thing.

they might be a paid troll. israel and china are known for those.

china got caught with that during hong kong where they were trying to funnel people in to a subreddit they had 24/7 PR staff on

@icedquinn @moffintosh I wish. Human nature dictates that there will always be a percentage of people that will fall for the utopian promises and the contrarian joy of thinking they're smarter than everyone else by having opposite opinions, and will even believe some of the dumbest propaganda known to man and/or just make shit up to justify that to themselves.

The China shills are at least doing it for money, and being Chinese most of them probably secretly know how bullshit it is what they're propagating. The western commies that believe them are worse, doing it for free and truly believing it, spreading that mental parasite more successfully.

@moffintosh @icedquinn dude, in the past you linked me, an Eastern European, an 40+ minute long video of some random latvian simping for soviet communism because surely his opinion is worth more than that of the people I personally know that experienced that system, and overall the majority of Eastern European population and the historical facts. Twice. I'm not spending another minute watching whatever delusional takes you link me next.

For you this is tales from another side of the world that might be true either way. For me this is the history of my region, lived by its people. Nothing that convinced you can match that.

Political Activists are not so different from Capitalist entrepreneurs: they both work very hard trusting that HARD WORK PAYS OFF.

The Capitalist does, but the Communist morons gets robbed. The End.

@moffintosh @FourOh-LLC @icedquinn words can hardly describe the irony of you using the word "blabber" after posting almost exclusively commie word salad.

@Amikke @FourOh-LLC @icedquinn "bouj", "marxist" and "planned economy" once each. Come on man at least try

@moffintosh @Amikke @FourOh-LLC i am forcing all of you to eat goji berries until i have recovered from how boring this conversation has become :blobfoxfloofowo:

it’s calculated by Marx teachings

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I don’t know if that’s supposed to imply it’s planned by the government or not because that’s not what I’m reading.

The 996 working hour system (Chinese: 996工作制) is a work schedule practiced by some companies in China.

And the government appears to be cracking down on it as well

@Hyolobrika @moffintosh @Amikke the CCP is your garden variety authoritarians; they don't want to be bothered running things themselves, they just want to make sure its obedient.
Where's the evidence this is planned by the CCP though?
@Hyolobrika @moffintosh @Amikke it isn't and nobody said it was.

the channer is trying to claim the wages are 'calculated by marx' but we know that in actuality china has suicide nets around factories and has miserable working conditions
Doesn't a strong work ethic (that may be an understatement but I can't think of a better term) exist in other Asian countries as well, such as Japan?
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