@icedquinn @moffintosh it’s almost as if people don’t want to work on the things that are actually needed and need some pressure, so every system that tries to get away from having to work to enjoy life ends up with having to work to not go to a gulag, funny that.

@icedquinn @Amikke You... cut the work hours?
I mean that's litterally a non issue in a planned economy

@icedquinn @Amikke
> planned economies don't work

They do thou. Simply stating otherwise don't change that.

@moffintosh @icedquinn yeah, worst that will happen is millions of people will starve and the system will collapse, but they can do it and it wouldn’t be the first time.

@Amikke @icedquinn Dude you're just posting cope

@moffintosh @icedquinn you are coping if you think that system can do that without suffering major consequences and somehow didn’t do it yet. This is on “let’s give everyone money so that we’ll all be rich” level of not grasping the economic reality.

@Amikke @icedquinn Because it can. So far all you did was post "noooo it's mean and ugly" without explaining shit

@moffintosh @icedquinn what you’re claiming is that:

1. the system can cut down work hours and improve the people’s lives
2. they can do that without suffering major consequences
3. they didn’t do that yet because uhhhhhhhh reasons but they can any day, really

Do you not even consider where those hours come from? Is planned economy some magical realm for you, where you can just make anything happen without any basis in reality?

@Amikke @icedquinn
> the system can cut down work hours and improve the people’s lives
Yes
 > they can do that without suffering major consequences
Yee
 > they didn’t do that yet because uhhhhhhhh reasons but they can any day, really
That's not what I am saying

> Do you not even consider where those hours come from?
From the same exact place they come now: workers. The difference being that labour isn't appropiated by the bouj for profit, but by tge people for the people

@moffintosh @icedquinn honestly amazing, it’s as if the reasoning part of your brain was completely replaced by repeating socialist mantras. I feel like I’m talking to a bad chatbot.

@Amikke @icedquinn
> "nooooooooo it's mean and ugly ur sheeeeeeep"

@Amikke @icedquinn Idk what I expected from a lib. I guess the racists just start allucinating da joooz by this point

@icedquinn @Amikke That ain't why marxists don't want to immediatly abolish the state though.
Hint: the spanish civil war

@icedquinn @moffintosh I wish. Human nature dictates that there will always be a percentage of people that will fall for the utopian promises and the contrarian joy of thinking they’re smarter than everyone else by having opposite opinions, and will even believe some of the dumbest propaganda known to man and/or just make shit up to justify that to themselves.

The China shills are at least doing it for money, and being Chinese most of them probably secretly know how bullshit it is what they’re propagating. The western commies that believe them are worse, doing it for free and truly believing it, spreading that mental parasite more successfully.

@Amikke @icedquinn Man that argument was old 2 centuries ago
https://youtu.be/3k7_wE0GhVM

@moffintosh @icedquinn dude, in the past you linked me, an Eastern European, an 40+ minute long video of some random latvian simping for soviet communism because surely his opinion is worth more than that of the people I personally know that experienced that system, and overall the majority of Eastern European population and the historical facts. Twice. I’m not spending another minute watching whatever delusional takes you link me next.

For you this is tales from another side of the world that might be true either way. For me this is the history of my region, lived by its people. Nothing that convinced you can match that.

@FourOh-LLC @icedquinn @Amikke
> Generic blabber no 16

NEEEEEXT

@moffintosh @FourOh-LLC @icedquinn words can hardly describe the irony of you using the word “blabber” after posting almost exclusively commie word salad.

@Amikke @FourOh-LLC @icedquinn "bouj", "marxist" and "planned economy" once each. Come on man at least try