@moffintosh > wage slavery does not exist in china
what is 996 :neocat_drowsy:

@moffintosh @icedquinn
>nooo you misunderstand, the wageslave life of 996 even worse than in any developed capitalist countries is fine because it's calculated by Marx teachings

Western commies simping for China is the wildest thing.

>capitalism is making us work too much, we need to change the system
>that other system has people work even more but it's ok because it's not capitalism
>sure it might be less efficient and result in worse quality of life but at least we can work more and lick the party's boots

@Amikke @moffintosh if they were sure of their people they would not need authoritarianism

morally correct people do not need fear to rule :neocat_floof_mug:
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@icedquinn @moffintosh it's almost as if people don't want to work on the things that are actually needed and need some pressure, so every system that tries to get away from having to work to enjoy life ends up with having to work to not go to a gulag, funny that.

@Amikke @moffintosh problem is then what do you do when you only need 300 people growing wheat and the other 18,000 people don't have a job.

but they're not allowed to do shit because only the job-havers are considered valid humans

@icedquinn @Amikke You... cut the work hours?
I mean that's litterally a non issue in a planned economy

@moffintosh @Amikke planned economies don't work :neocat_googly_shocked:

adam smith capitalism does, until it gets inevitably replaced with crony capitalism/neofeudalism. well, i say does, except for this part: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullshit_Jobs

@icedquinn @Amikke
> planned economies don't work

They do thou. Simply stating otherwise don't change that.

@moffintosh @icedquinn yeah, worst that will happen is millions of people will starve and the system will collapse, but they can do it and it wouldn't be the first time.

@moffintosh @icedquinn you are coping if you think that system can do that without suffering major consequences and somehow didn't do it yet. This is on "let's give everyone money so that we'll all be rich" level of not grasping the economic reality.

@Amikke @icedquinn Because it can. So far all you did was post "noooo it's mean and ugly" without explaining shit

@moffintosh @icedquinn what you're claiming is that:
1. the system can cut down work hours and improve the people's lives
2. they can do that without suffering major consequences
3. they didn't do that yet because uhhhhhhhh reasons but they can any day, really

Do you not even consider where those hours come from? Is planned economy some magical realm for you, where you can just make anything happen without any basis in reality?

@Amikke @icedquinn
> the system can cut down work hours and improve the people’s lives
Yes
 > they can do that without suffering major consequences
Yee
 > they didn’t do that yet because uhhhhhhhh reasons but they can any day, really
That's not what I am saying

> Do you not even consider where those hours come from?
From the same exact place they come now: workers. The difference being that labour isn't appropiated by the bouj for profit, but by tge people for the people

@moffintosh @icedquinn honestly amazing, it's as if the reasoning part of your brain was completely replaced by repeating socialist mantras. I feel like I'm talking to a bad chatbot.

@Amikke @icedquinn Idk what I expected from a lib. I guess the racists just start allucinating da joooz by this point

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