Amikke @Amikke@qoto.org

@moffintosh @icedquinn again, your opinion on what is or isn't labour doesn't matter. Nor the opinion of the NEET loser who wrote the theory you're trying to use and hasn't worked legitimately in his life. Their work generates value which is returned as profit. Their rewards are proportional to value generated. That's all there is to it.

@icedquinn @moffintosh imo it comes back to wishful thinking and nor understanding the complexity of the world we live in and/or the human nature, usually due to wishful thinking.

@moffintosh @icedquinn their labour is worth around what they're paid because a market-based economy operates on the actual results of work and not some random person's judgement.

@icedquinn @moffintosh always funny to see commies call the people managing resources "just moving around some numbers" when failing to properly do that is one of the bigger reasons why socialism always fails, and how commies managed to mismanage and fuck up an entire sea amongst other things. So close to understanding.

@coolboymew @ooignignoktoo how the fuck can Valve run out of digital copies of their own game?

#meme

@VD15 may god have mercy on you

@VD15 shift+del

@icedquinn oof rel
I don't like the way verticality works in this game

@robbie assuming a specific definition of "works". Electron UIs tend to be unstable and break constantly, lag and freeze on weaker machines, not to mention consuming ridiculous amounts of resources even when they don't and integrating with the rest of the desktop about as well as a website. Cause y'know…

@nixCraft

@pwm @mw1cgg it's the morally highest ground to take, but usually it's not enough to even save everyone that wants to not allow bad treatment from said treatment. You get lost in the crowd of people ignorant, spineless or desperate and lose quality of life for no noticeable positive effect.

I don't like resorting to prohibiting things, but sometimes it just results in effectively the same outcome if everyone suffering grew a spine and engaged in boycott together anyway, but without requiring that to take place. (It generally never does.)

Would I want my gov to take away existing workers' rights so that workers fight for them themselves? I'd have to be insane. We know how it'd end.

@pwm @mw1cgg some years ago I'd agree, but you probably know as well as I now do that as long as it's not prohibited, the majority of people that don't know enough or don't care enough will allow it and as such dictate the market reality to the minority that does. It's happened with privacy, it's happened with owning your music/games, it's happened with intrusive advertising, it's happened with virtually every aspect of workers' rights and it will keep happening.

@mw1cgg honestly baffling that's legal in the USA at all. Try that in an EU country and whatever local branch of the government enforces workers' rights will happily explain to you how much you need to fuck off. Not to mention that if you get away with it and try to enforce it, you'll be laughed out of court, likely also starting a separate case of breaking employment laws.

Employers borrow a portion of your time, not take ownership of your life. Stuff like this should never happen in a country that claims to be civilised.