@chris @freemo When I said "self-interest" I had as presupposition that the highest authority in the US was corporate interest; which I guess should not have gone unstated but it just feels so obvious 😂. I do agree that western nations had/have no legitimate reasons for meddling in other parts of the world but on the other hand if we didnt do it other nations would. While we could preserve our moral high ground, would it really be better for other countries to become beholden to Russian and Chinese oligarchs? I do not see simple answers to any of these questions. Anyway its cool to hear other perspectives regardless. Cheers