MS used to have 800-900 at this time 2 days back. How much can you in a monopoly keep avusing Hindus & BJP... Now it's 391... While it's cousin mstdn.social is now down to 238!! Dying a slow painful death! mastodon.host/@federationbot/1

@TheSecularOne

It was just a passing fad.

These idiots with mice brains cannot appreciate what qoto has to offer.

They deserve to be manipulated by algorithms.

@TheSecularOne

1. QOTO is run by a computer scientist !! @freemo

2. It offers a 60k charachter limit, so you can rant as much as you want.

3.It is pro free speech and doesn't moderate without warnings.

4. It has other technical features as well, eg- search works differently.

@inditoot is amazing as well, It is pro-free speech and I believe the admin depends on contributions to keep the instance alive.

Both Qoto and inditoot have great relations and I think a no-ban policy as well.

Friendly diplomatic relations.

Would advise people to move out of Mastodon.social though. It is getting overloaded anyway.

@Full_marx

We will occasionally ban but its pretty rare we need to, its almost always very obvious cases like advertising bots.

We do not however ban **instances** meaning you can follow anyone from any instance, always.

@TheSecularOne @inditoot

@TheSecularOne

Yeah I mean't they won't ban each other.

@freemo

But wait, QOTO won't ban alt-right instances either? The sexist, racist, homophobic breeding grounds?

I did not know that!!

@inditoot

@Full_marx

We wont ban but we will **silence**, but even that we do rarely.

Our rule is we only silence instance who dont respect our users right to disengage. That means if oine of our users says "go away" and the offending user does not leave them alone (or worse yet creates multiple accounts) then we will silence the instance.

A full out ban we wont do because silencing prevents anyone on our server from "hearing" anyone from the offending server unless and until the user follows someone. So silencing is more than enough to protect our users usually.

@TheSecularOne @inditoot

@freemo

It's beginning to feel more and more like mini nations.

With foreign policy and what not.

Plus we have moderator elections as well.

All we need is some crypto coins....

@TheSecularOne @inditoot

@Full_marx @freemo @inditoot My own take. Nobody should ever be banned or even silenced. At the most advertising... User has a right to block... So user can use it if another User targets... Again I stand for absolute #FoE so won't ever complain on anything or anybody nor will I block. Now comes the dicey thing. For me a block means user A does not want any further interaction with User B... But user B should be able to see User A and even reply which others see not A. Anyways

@TheSecularOne

And when your blocked if the user creates a new account every time to circumvent the block?

To me in practice a no block policy doesnt work, there are always edge cases whbere you either have to block or the network becomes unusable.

I also dont want to see my users needing to block a new advertising account every 5 minutes manually. If a server has a no block policy after about a year the advertising trolls get wind of that and you will have a new advertising account signing up and spamming every few minutes. So the local and federated timeline becomes annoying really fast and the only way a user can combat the spam is to spend alot of time banning people constantly.

@Full_marx @inditoot

@freemo

Can't we regulate bot behaviour?

Like a posting rate (posts/hour).

Or considering the timeline is anyway Chrono, just outright charge them!! -- (I know I know this statement is blasphemy)

@TheSecularOne @inditoot

@Full_marx

We could but we arent talking about a singular bot. This tend to manifest as thousands of bots each posting infrequently but collectively dominating the feed. Most spam bots sign up for an account and post rare and just create many accounts for different products

@TheSecularOne @inditoot

@freemo

Never realised the kind of problems fediverse faces.

Ip's are scrambled too??

@TheSecularOne @inditoot

@Full_marx

Not sure if they are all from the same source, doesnt look like it. I think its just lots of people spamming products and they all use the same bot software or something

@TheSecularOne @inditoot

Follow

@freemo

Well um...

Nuclear option would be to just include a switch to turn off all bots from showing app on your feed.

But that still doesn't solve the issue of the load on the server.

I'm thinking of an interaction based rating system.

If people are interacting with a bot, we let it stay.

But after one month of low interaction, we make the bot pay in order to continue.

@TheSecularOne @inditoot

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