@freemo , that's pretty good for a 9mm. But shouldn't you be at 25m??

@JonKramer most people shoot handguns somewqhere between 7 yards and 15 yards, so 20 yards is already quite far for a pistol from what I'm told.

@freemo , I won't swear to it, but I think on your target it says something like "25 yard pistol target." 20 is probably pretty common for indoor ranges.

@JonKramer Im too new at shooting to really have a strong opinion. All I know is I asked two very expiernced shooters (one of them being hte owner of the range) and they all said something between 7 and 15 yards. When I told them i shot at 20yards they pointed out thats farther than most people shoot handguns.

@freemo , trust me when I say that for 20 yards, you did far better than many, and probably most. I know for a fact you just shot better than my kid, who is a cop. :)

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@JonKramer Good to know! I was worried it was a poor job but people are telling me its not bad.

@freemo , I have seriously seen people who couldn't land a single round on the target, out of an entire magazine. They get better... I can still remember my 1st pistol shot... And the clump of dirt it kicked up about 20 yards from the firing line. My friends were saying things like "Holy shit Jon, you suck!" I got better.

@JonKramer I shot at 50 yards earlier today too... hit about 7 out of 24 rounds at that distance.

@freemo That's better than my other kid about 3 years ago when he got a new deer rifle. :)

We set up a 60 yard range, with the plan to extend it to a couple hundred. I swear he had issues hitting a 4x4 sheet of plywood we had put up for something to nail the targets to.

Which reminds me, for his birthday I wanted to get a laser bore site gizmo so he can help zero his scope... I have a couple weeks still....

@JonKramer Being better with a pistol than someone with a rifle is saying a lot :)

@freemo Practice, practice, practice! And the kid had only fired a handful of rounds through his rifle, and I highly doubt the scope was showing the same county. Did you watch that 1000 yard shot video? THAT is amazing.

@JonKramer I did watch it... after hitting 7 out of 24 shots at 50 yards I cant imagine how its even possible to hit a target at 1000 yards in only 2 shots...

@freemo Anymore I can't even see a target that far away. At my best, 30 years ago, that would have been an incredible rifle shot for me. That guy looks 70 and still did it in 2??

40 years ago I had a buddy who did competitive black powder shooting. They shot at (if I remember right) 1000 yard ranges. But still, rifles.

@JonKramer I have to wear prescription glasses. I certainly wouldnt be able to see the target well enough otherwise.

@freemo I have those now too... although I don't wear them when shooting. But things over maybe 100 meters are getting tough to see. I think it's called a stigmatism? Where there are multiple images that overlap?? For now, I can shot at the bottom left image... but that will get worse.

@JonKramer yes a stigmatism is where your lens is deformed in an oval, rather than round, shape. It causes double vision (though you may not always notice you have double vision)

@freemo I look at the stars, a lot. I noticed it as soon as it happened. Incredibly frustrating. But, I'm 60... And still have vision better than many ever have. And, glasses help.

@JonKramer yea point sources of light or small bright things can usually show it easily... if your eyes are night adjusted you will often see it when looking at your monitor if you look closely. I have stigmatism and only notice it once in a while.

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