JonKramer, CIS-HET @JonKramer@qoto.org

@AmishSuperModel @gordoooo_z , I have no profit motive to lie...

@AmishSuperModel @gordoooo_z , you. My congressman. My senators. My local committee man. The guy I met at a bar one night. My coworkers. My bosses. My employees.

@AmishSuperModel @gordoooo_z I assume no solutions. I suggest it is very likely a lack of health care. I don't know providing healthcare will solve the problem, but I assume if it does, it will take several generations. Too bad we didn't start the process 50 years ago, eh? At this point, we refuse to even study the issue.

@AmishSuperModel @gordoooo_z I have advocated that research for decades.

@AmishSuperModel @gordoooo_z , again, I BELIEVE it to be a lack of mental health care. I stated that the very 1st post I made in this thread, and the last post before this one. I know it isn't access to guns. I know it isn't machine guns. I know it isn't immigrants. I also know as long as we blame something or someone it isn't, we will never address the problem. My deep suspicion is that systemic sexism and racism keeps us from honestly addressing the problem.

@AmishSuperModel @gordoooo_z , the Swiss have a sub machine gun in almost every home. Canadians have tons of rifles. Yes, the USA has the greatest access, and STILL women do not engage in atrocities.

I'm not sure what you are trying to argue here. Do you think American women DO commit mass shootings in numbers representative of their population numbers?

@AmishSuperModel @gordoooo_z I will say that nations with universal health-care, and access to weapons, do not have the same issues we have. This not proof it is a health care issue, but it's pretty damn persuasive.

@AmishSuperModel @gordoooo_z , easy access is obviously not the problem. Women in America have easy access to guns, yet do not commit these atrocities. This is blatantly obvious. Our failure to address the mental health of the population that does do these crimes I BELIEVE is the root problem, but I advocate POTUS demanding that the CDC research this issue to be sure.

@ocsweetest in means my pyramid scheme and insider trading is being looked at, and I need a lawyer?

@RollingStone. when the next draft happens, my pronouns will change.

@CrazyMyra , plot twist, in Jamaica.

@bananarama @AmishSuperModel @gordoooo_z , agreed. Which means the problem must be addressed at root causes. The 2nd is damn clear. And I agree firmly with Karl Marx when he says to never surrender weapons to the government. Unless you want a police state... what we need is red flag laws, and red flag anyone who is a credible threat. ANYONE. And stop turning a blind patriarchal/racist eye to who should be flagged. And who shouldn't. And stop blaming our situation on provable falsehoods.

@neurovagrant , I feel your pain. Seasonal depression, huge increases in utility bills, and the realization I am as old now as old people are.

@fsinn he wanted a date...

@gordoooo_z @AmishSuperModel it's hand guns that kill the most, and it isn't in the water, because women drink the same water.

It's young conservative men. Seriously. And ya, they occasionally drive vans into crowds. Or other cars. Women don't do that either. We are focused on the wrong thing. And that we are focused wrong is blatantly obvious.

It's a healthcare issue. Mental health.

@BeckyBunzy , not sure, but it looks like the type of place where the crowd sings along...

@AmishSuperModel @gordoooo_z , I disagree. If you take away guns, the root cause remains. The homicide rates won't change. The weapons will change, but I have never met anyone who said "I'm glad my child was beaten to death with a bat, instead of being shot", so I don't see this as an improvement. Nations that ban guns don't see drops in homicide rates. We need to refocus on the root cause. Even if that isn't politically correct.

The problem is disease. Mental disease, affecting young men. POTUS should order the CDC to investigate. But, this seems to be another 3rd rail of politics. It's just easier to blame guns...

@gordoooo_z @AmishSuperModel , it should be noted who does the shooting. Despite having the same access to guns, women do not commit mass murders or gun crimes. It isn't "the guns". It IS young conservative men. We seem to ignore this, I'm guessing because it isn't politically correct to make the observation. But this is real. The next mass shooter (killing strangers) will be a young white Christian male. This can't be ignored.