American industry is burning 1.5 tons of coal per day, but the NYT thinks you should feel guilty about occasionally eating hamburgers.
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“The study found that, compared to meat-heavy diets, vegan diets resulted in 75 percent less land use, 54 percent less water use, and 66 percent le...

@LouisIngenthron

It's not an either-or decision. Governments are not acting, so we need to do everything we can.

Also, meat is murder.

@Pat Individual action, even collectively, is a drop in the bucket compared to the contributions of governments and industry. It's like trying to solve a crack in Hoover Dam by getting the locals to line up with buckets.

As for your second statement, why is meat any more murder than salad? In both cases, you're eating the dead carcass of a once-living being killed for your consumption, right?

@LouisIngenthron

>"Individual action, even collectively, is a drop in the bucket compared to the contributions of governments and industry."

Every decision is made by an individual. Individuals work at those companies and can effect their decisions. Also, nearly the entire economy is driven by consumer demand, so in reality individual action is nearly the whole bucket.

>"As for your second statement, why is meat any more murder than salad? In both cases, you're eating the dead carcass of a once-living being killed for your consumption, right?"

If you're concerned about plants, then you should adopt a vegan diet because many more plants are killed than animals to raise animals for food.

@Pat
>"Individuals work at those companies"
You're not going to convince the individuals who run the oil companies to have a change of heart by individually switching to an electric car. If enough people do that, then the oil man will just sell his oil to power plants to burn to make the energy for your car chargers.

>"If you're concerned about plants"
I'm not concerned about either. I'm asking why you choose to draw the line where you do, and whether you think it's any less arbitrary a decision than where I draw it.

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@LouisIngenthron

>"...individually switching to an electric car. If enough people do that, then the oil man will just sell his oil to power plants to burn to make the energy for your car chargers."

Consumer can choose to buy their electricity from non-polluting sources,

>"I'm asking why you choose to draw the line where you do, and whether you think it's any less arbitrary a decision than where I draw it."

I don't know where you draw the line. My choices are not arbitrary. There have been volumes written on this subject.

Ask yourself why it is wrong to harm a human, or a dog or a cat. There's your answer.

@Pat
> "Consumer can choose to buy their electricity from non-polluting sources"
I don't know where you live, but I certainly don't have that choice anywhere I've ever lived. There was always only one choice, a local monopoly, sometimes subsidized by local government.

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