Pat @Pat@qoto.org

@freemo

>"I disagree with you though, wearing resperators is beyond bonkers to me. People die.. wash your hands, take some good practices sure, but wearing hazmat, no, lol, just no. You will never find me encouraging people to wear full on respirators out in public..."

This is what I am talking about. People are ignorant. They don't even know a respirator is.

Here's a picture of a respirator. The study said that if just 40% of people wore these N95 respirators at the beginning of the pandemic, it would have stopped it in its tracks.

@icedquinn

@freemo

H1N1 in 2009. That was one of worse flu viruses since 1918.

It's not 2009, it's 2022.

And yes, we should be wearing our respirators during flu season... COVID-19 or not, especially those who are older or have other issues.

And you much more likely to die from not wearing a respirator in public than you are to die from not wearing your seatbelt.

@icedquinn

@freemo

No it not prelim numbers. They changed the criteria earlier this year. Several states did that to make the numbers look better this year.

But that's really just nonsense compared to the major point -- a milion people are dead who didn't have to die because the CDC and others didn't tell people the most effective way to prevent infection and spred of the virus.

That's the bottom line. They intentionally withheld and blocked the distribution of information that would have saved those lives. They are still doing it today.

@freemo

Death rates continually decreased throughout the pandemic because theraputics continued to improve. Delta was more deadly, but they knew how to treat it better by then.

@icedquinn

@freemo

>"They arent negative..."

Yes they were. Cummuative counts went down from one day to the next because they changed the criteria.

CDC same thing. There's even a footnote at the CDC count page that says cummulative counts can go negative because of this.

The states changed their criteria. I put sources in that thread.

@icedquinn

@freemo

And I'm referring to the activity of the virus, not how treatment improved over time.
@icedquinn

@freemo

When I say virulent, I mean more malignant, not necessarilly more contagous.

Delta was most deadly. It caused more severe illness and death per infection.

@icedquinn

@icedquinn

>" it comes from imperfect, non-sterilizing treatments"

This is exactly what they are doing with the COVID-19 vaccines. It's about 44-50% effective at preventing infection. It doesn't stop the spread, it just helps to keep people from dying and getting very sick.

The virus could mutate into a strain that avoids the vaccine, kills more people, but still allow people to spread it before they die.

And how would people react to a strain that was 50% lethal? All the fools would say it was just the flu and they'd die. Others stay home from work and supply chains would stop. Then Rome falls.

@freemo

@freemo @icedquinn

Well how can the rate be negative unless they're fucking with numbers?

@icedquinn @freemo

Re death counts: https://qoto.org/@Pat/108258209223634011

@freemo @icedquinn

My understanding is that Delta was the most virulent. So it went from wild-Alpha-Beta-Delta. That's mutating from a less lethal strain to a more lethal strain. It has demonstrated that it can mutate to a more lethal strain.

Also, I think Omicron is more virulent than Alpha (not sure), which is the lineage for Omicron strain (Omicron came from the Alpha strain, not via Delta).

Epidemiologist have warned about the posibility of COVID-19 mutating to a very deadly strain.

@icedquinn

>"it is not normal for them to become more deadly."

The COVID-19 virus has already demonstrated that it does that -- mutates to become more virulent, more deadly.

@freemo

@icedquinn

>" it stopped being more deadly when it became the democrat strain lmao"

When Trump took off his mask after barely recovering from COVID-19, the media went crazy.

Now Biden goes on a national TV talk show, takes his mask off in front of a large live audience and nobody says anything. It's even more dangerous now with the more contagous strains, and he knows better. But Biden ordered the media to stop talking about COVID-19 in February 2022 so it has nearly zero coverage now.

@freemo