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@PhDniX Okay, Thackston suggests that if the participal has some future sense, it has a "verbal force," interesting. So Thackston implies that, if it has a more present feel to it, it is more of a noun, right? I think I might have a closer look at it. 🧐 Thank you for mentioning some parts that would constitute counterexamples!

@PhDniX Isn't it some sort of begging the question (i.e. going in an argumentative circle)? It takes an accusative object (not a complement as a genitive), and therefore it retains "its verbal force," whatever that actually means, and to make the circle complete, if it still has this "verbal force" it takes an accusative. And thus for some reason, your counterexamples entail participles with some more "nominal force," and Thackston is still "right."

@AjaanMark Unlikely, because after the understanding of the gerund normally follows the understanding of the gerundive. https://www.mytutor.co.uk/answers/11156/A-Level/Latin/What-is-the-difference-between-a-gerund-and-a-gerundive/ 🧐

Nice article, although I am not the most objective source to maintain that, of course: https://digitalorientalist.com/2022/12/30/we-need-to-talk-about-twitter/

@curiousordinary @folklore It is also the title of an album by the versatile musician Osamu Kitajima. It's from 1973, I believe.

@azforeman That's a... Special take. In The Netherlands, poetry has not much of an appeal, even in literary circles. It might have something to do with the fact that Dutch is less conservative than German, which could make Dutch poetry from, say, Middle 19th Century up to well into the 1930s feel far more dated to Dutch native speakers than German poetry from the same age to German speakers.

@claesdevreese @academicchatter It may be a good idea to just respond as follows: "Zelenograd is finished, and not in a good way." And leave it at that.

@hatulimyafim The lessons in question are from the textbook "Aserbaidschanisch Lehrbuch: Unter Beruecksichtigung des Nord- und Suedaserbaidschanischen" by Nemat Rahmati and Korkut Buğday.

@hatulimyafim Just for your information: I have just entered the vocabulary of Lesson 5 of the method I am using for learning Azeri. Considering there are 17 Lessons, and assuming not too many lessons are much more or less voluminous vocabularywise, I assume that I will be ready with finishing the spreadsheet sometime in early Spring, perhaps earlier.