@ProstasiaInc i dont get help because i do not NEED help, im very successful at loving children , i am perfectly made as is, i do not need some weird sort of federal adjustment or psychological reconditioning, no fuckin thanks
@ProstasiaInc " many mental health issues caused by stigma are known risk factors for sexual violence, meaning stigma may increase some MAPs’ risk of committing a sexual offense"
see you use the phrasing sexual offense, which is total malarky way to refer to two people potentially making love
@ProstasiaInc and additionally feeding back into the notion that it would be morally ill for such a thing to occur, hence why ive always been fairly anti-prostasia, you're anti-pedo, not pro-help
My point is that asking us not to use phrasing that is accurate to the laws on the books doesn't make much sense when we're a public policy advocacy group. You're assigning a meaning to the language that it doesn't inherently have.
(sorry for the delete and redraft, I realized I didn't fully answer your question with my first reply)
@puppyperv @ProstasiaInc It's not using the law as a baseline, just using it as a source of terminology that has a set-out definition. I use the term "child pornography" for the same reason when I'm talking about it in a legal sense, even though I know the phrase is offensive to many survivors and prefer to use the phrase "CSAM" everywhere else.
Using a term doesn't indicate agreement or disagreement with its usage elsewhere.
@puppyperv @ProstasiaInc You can see an example of how I use both in one of my previous articles. As a rule, I try to only say "child pornography" where "CSAM" would be inaccurate. For example, under existing laws, someone who gets arrested for it is being arrested for "child pornography," so "CSAM" wouldn't be accurate. Using them separately is also useful for clarifying the difference between what is illegal (some countries include drawings in their definition of child pornography) vs what is actually abusive (CSAM).
@puppyperv @ProstasiaInc I'd only consider something CSAM if its existence carries a high risk of harm to a real child (mainly images and videos of a child being abused). Child pornography includes everything that the government bans under relevant laws, so it can include harmless fictional content, consensual sexting between teens, and other non-abusive content.
@elliot @ProstasiaInc ah ya that distinction does make sense i guess, I feel like by those definitions, child pornography is a lot less something i want to see in the world then csam would be, im generally pretty against kids being abused, and its hard for me to enjoy anything knowing the person involved was hurt to make it ;;
@puppyperv @ProstasiaInc Ideally the government would adopt the term CSAM into existing CP laws to avoid the offensive term (and fix the laws so they focus on actual harmful content, but logic and reason is a lot to ask of politicians), but until that happens, I think the terms being different has some value. In the UK there's CSEM laws, which have similar shortcomings as the US' CP laws
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