@kjr
I know the talking point, just looking for the data behind the talking point.

I looked it up yesterday and found a site that takes on anti Vax taking points, and their big highlight was something like "if you can't catch it, you can't spread it"... Another good sound byte, but I don't think it's accurate. I've seen some vaccinations that I've had say that by being vaccinated you could become a carrier without "catching" the disease...and as you mentioned, the vaccine doesn't protect everyone who has it.

My frustration with the discussion around this is that both sides seem to have 2 strategies : 1. Talking points that don't a appear to have solid backing and 2. Appeal to emotion in telling everyone to be afraid of the other side.

Like in political discussions, I wish we could all be less hysterical and more reasonable.
@Surasanji