i mean, do whatever you want, but copyleft isn't convincing to me
@xj9 Why not? I like the idea. "Everyone can use this and no third party can stop anyone from using this."
@nepfag public domain and permissive licenses do the same thing
@xj9 They don't. Someone can just take the original code and lock it down.
@nepfag just get the not-locked copy then
@xj9 That one doesn't run on the hardware you bought though because of checks in firmware.
@nepfag so what you're telling me is that *BSD doesn't exist?
@xj9 Please install it on the Switch or the PS4. They use a locked down version of it, after all.
@nepfag why would i do that? i have plenty of open-enough hardware options to choose from.
@xj9 Not the point and you know it. try again.
@nepfag the point is GPL and copyleft don't work without government involvement, which i am opposed to.
The problem (apart from capitalism, obviously) is that people can't code.
So while it's obvious to hackers that the best outcome is when code is and is kept in the commons, to most people the only advantage of #FreeSoftware is that it's free as in beer.
They cannot really study, modify and distribute forks of the software they use, be it proprietary or not.
To change this state of things we need to work on at least two aspect of our society: #Culture and #Technology.
We need systems designed to compose and we need to teach people why and how to code and debug.
Then people will find unacceptable to not being able to hack their own software.
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> But despite forty years of commercial products, open source, and deep academic work, we have yet to reach an end-user programming utopia. In fact, the opposite: today our computing devices are less programmable and less customizable than ever before.
