RMS pulls a serious power move (read: dick move), unilaterally appointing a maintainer to Guile without consulting the other co-maintainers or community, because the current co-maintainers disagree with him on governance lists.gnu.org/archive/html/gui

It's also worth reading @dthompson's followup here lists.gnu.org/archive/html/gui

David's experience is also mine; there's a reason I dropped my association as a "GNU hacker", which used to be the way I identified myself for some time.

For many people, I'm sure these things seem to be shocking, as if all of this is happening at once. I'm shocked by how fast things have devolved, but not the way they are, because I already saw and tried to change for years how bad it was until I gave up.

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Smell like there are several power games at work in and in right now.

And since I've followed all the drama around ' mail and I've seen how a crowd of people lynched him for what he SAID, I can't say I'm shocked by this reaction from Andy.

I've read his words before and I see how he is trying to profit as much as possible from the shitstorm that is on right now.

@Shamar @cwebber so, uh, we're with Andy on this. if anyone is power hungry here, it's rms. we just want rms held accountable for his poor leadership.


I noticed you are with Andy.

That's why I replied to @cwebber

I don't know personally and I disagree with him on MANY MANY things. Even when we talk about I think he is too moderate (and I'm a catholic Christian so you might guess by yourselves on how many other things I deeply disagree with him! 😉).

But the arguments of Andy are poor. As the arguments of the crowd that got is head at .

is a form of expression, so software IS freedom of expression.

Andy joined the crowd that lynched for what he WROTE (conveniently misreading it, to be precise).

If you know that Stallman did any crime towards women, you have only ONE thing to do: denounce him and provide evidence to the police.

Each day you delay his trial is a day more you are accomplices of his crimes.

I'm very serious on this.
There is nothing else to do when you face a crime.

If RMS did any crime, denounce him.

Otherwise, please, stop this.


@Shamar @dthompson @cwebber
"Not being a criminal" is not sufficient criteria for continuing to lead a project of such importance.

He sucks at leading, so he shouldn't lead. Simple as that.

No one even said he should be censored.



Leading people means helping them move from a point to another.

Like it or not, but proved a great leadership in : he didn't just give it a definition and an identity, but turned it in a powerful and positive political movement. He was being so.successful that was created to embrace, extend and estinguish such movement.

Thank to we now have , browsers that are more complex to than operating systems and the four have been reduced to privileges.

However intransigence was still a pain in the ass for many people who want to finally absorb free software in open source.

Without Stallman at , are way stronger. Now THEY will lead!

Will be creepy with women?

Does Google care about women?
Sure! They are valuable data cow to milk! Great workers! And useful conumers! Just like men.

Same for , and friends! They will be great leaders, if you want to be led where they want to milk you.

But I'm a weird . I prefer weird leaders. Because their weirdness protects mine. And yours.

Don't forget my words: nobody will fight for hackers' freedom. The gentrification process is running fast. First , now RMS... the next might be you!

@dthompson @cwebber


@Shamar @dthompson @cwebber
He did those things what, 20 years ago?
And if a free software project can't even be nice to women, it doesn't deserve to exist.



You seem to assume that Politics is easier than Programming.

It's not.

Programming is way more funny.
And way less frustrating.
And I say this having experience of doing both, either separately or at the same time.

I don't know if code at all today, but he never stopped fighting for (his vision of) .

And despite the fact that I don't entirely agree with him on such vision, I call bullshit when people say he did nothing for in the last 20 or 30 years.

He did a huge lot.

But it you only measure work in term of SLOCs/hour because you internalized the corporate perspective of productivity, obviously all his work is worth nothing.

But beware, people who adopt such perspective are going to be exploited.

If all it matters to you is X (with X being any easy to measure scalar, such as $, €, SLOC/hour or whatever), you stop being an hacker, a user or even just a citizen and you become a , a that can be easily through software.

@dthompson @cwebber


@Shamar @dthompson @cwebber
Since he is responsible for the negative image people associate with GNU, I'd say that it may have been better if he did less in the last 20 years.



What exactly do you mean by "negative image of GNU"?

Are you talking about the lack of overall technical vision about the system or about something else?

@dthompson @cwebber

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