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@anzu

I wonder how much abstraction we need to program in C (or in Oberon without inheritance)...

@anzu

ok, you can question the goals, actually. 😃

which concepts do you think they could not understand or memorize?

can we just omit them and still write useful programs (for them)

@anzu

ok, you can question the goals, actually. 😃

which concepts do you think they could not understand or memorize?

can we just omit them and still write useful programs (for them)

@anzu

ok, you can question the goals, actually. 😃

which concepts do you think they could not understand or memorize?

can we just omit them and still write useful programs (for them)

Let's suppose you have to teach C to 7yo kids.

Where do you start from?

How do you setup their playground?

(please, don't question the goal in this thread... let's focus on solutions)

@xChaos

Actually C without _any_ allocation is quite simple and secure.

As I look openssl compiling, I wonder if we should surrender to C, and just find a way to teack kids how to program in C.

If you avoid malloc, it's not even such a terrible language...

Or I'm just too old and corrupted?

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More people in the Open Source community ought to read this: https://archive.is/paD1W

h/t @Shamar (via LWN)

tl;dr: OSI’s behaviour is even worse than we thought

(And apparently Fakebook was one of the driving forces behind this… and still there are idiots on Fedi who want to connect with them. Bah!)

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Latest NASA global temperature data.
Earth has never been hotter since Homo sapiens (we) discovered agriculture in the early Holocene. Likely even since the Eemian interglacial 120.000 years ago.
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We need to stop making it worse.
Yes, we can if we want to.

@cpot

The is deeply flawed exactly because of two employees (a Llama developer and a lawyer) that were invited to vote about the requirements and excluded training data.

Without training data, you cannot really modify any AI, just fine-tune them. Which is like saying that Windows is because you can tweak the registry.

And without training data you have no hope of being able to effectively study its bias or to identify backdoors planted in the system: arxiv.org/abs/2204.06974

is serving its sponsors, , , ... opening a loophole in the .

@gualdo

@vecna

Ai miei occhi serve anzitutto per evitare che un giudice possa prendere sul serio la OSAID.

Per altri del gruppo serve a evitare che la OSAID prenda il posto della OSD nella pratica: l'OSI è un gatekeeper per le licenze "open source" che si è rivelato pericoloso.

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I remember Google+, and the idee fixe and mad hype around it. (Google was afraid of Facebook.) G+ was a ghost town. But for the first year or so the G+ team reported astronomical engagement numbers. Huhh?

Finally we learned they were counting every G+ notification dropped at the top of Gmail as an "engagement."

Anyway, I wonder how they're measuring this...

businessinsider.com/google-ear

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@hipsterelectron

classify the kind of systems that the 's defines as , as : salsa.debian.org/deeplearning-

Without training data you cannot ecercise the freedom to study a system and your ability to modify it is severely limited to fine tuning.

Which is like to say that windows is open source because you can tweak the registry.

For these reasons some open source developers are already moving beyond OSI: opensourcedeclaration.org

You are welcome to join!

It's not just matter of securing the , but to update it with a truly open process, with all developers, artists, musicians, data scientists... who contribute their time and valuable skills to open source: opensourcedefinition.org/wip/

@mawhrin @tante @biocrusoe

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