Asking myself if there is a new feeling amongst most people, some kind of hopelessnes, or if that was always there?
Do we, generally, perceive the world as more hopeless, and thus shut down, or is the general vibe of giving up more an artifact of how action is compartmentalized, no longer meaningful, thus a slow but steady development?
Haha, living through climate collapse and resurgence of fascism, i still ask myself systemic questions instead of bashing fascists and destroying fossil fuel power plants. Humanity is doomed, i am the showcase.
But hey, while we live, what do you think about new feeling versus slowly advancing compartmentalization? Or am i neglecting a pivotal factor?
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@admitsWrongIfProven @jeffcliff @Hyolobrika @PippiPunkstrumpf @VeroniqueB99 @renardboy @the_etrain @Alice @CorvidCrone i think we need to develop realistic but anticynical media, informed by a kind of Pascal’s wager. (i admit in many of my posts i fail to live up to this suggestion.)
@interfluidity
I don't see any problem of you living up to your standards, but the question was more like "why tf is everyone giving up, is it because we are nearly dead or more like, some not-humane human handling?"
Sorry if that was too graphic, i hope i explained my point in an understandable way.
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@admitsWrongIfProven @interfluidity @jeffcliff@shitposter.club @Hyolobrika@social.fbxl.net @PippiPunkstrumpf @VeroniqueB99 @the_etrain @Alice @CorvidCrone My ugly honest take on this is that at this point individual efforts to curb climate change have to also be inline with resilience goals in order to maintain sanity.
I try to shift my habits away from what capitalism prescribes and towards living off the land, in a sustainable way that will also allow me to continue to thrive and support my community when the machine fails.
@admitsWrongIfProven @interfluidity @PippiPunkstrumpf @VeroniqueB99 @the_etrain @Alice @CorvidCrone I'm personally somewhat skeptical that climate change will bring about the complete eradication of humanity, much less all life on earth.
I fully expect things to get bad, but I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out that the models that predicted runaway greenhouse effect did not manage to encompass the full complexity of the system at play here, and just came out wrong.
@renardboy
But we are all selfish, at least a bit. Eradication of humanity is not what is relevant, the danger to our individual selves is!
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@renardboy I guess the perspecive changes the more rural the area is?
I've been meaning to move to a more rural area, something i would not have wanted some years ago, if i can realize that, maybe my perspective changes too.
But i guess the grief from seeing how humans cause much unnecessary suffering won't change.
@admitsWrongIfProven I'm not sure. I grew up in the suburbs of Montreal, now I live in a small city that is the main urbanized area within its surroundings, but still only about 40 kilometers north of Montreal and connected to it via commuter rail.
I don't know how much my perspective was shaped by my area, I think I've just embraced the fact that what I see is not what most people see and I can't bridge the gap by force, so I just do my best and let this ruin wash over me, like a tree.