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Just a reminder to anyone going on a vegan diet to be more healthy.... heroin is also vegan.
@freemo chuckle So true… I’m a vegetarian and I am terribly annoyed by all the people who go all “oh, I try to eat healthy, too”. That isn’t my reason, and, given that I manage to be quite fat, it isn’t a particularly good reason in the first place 😛
@aexiruch hahaha yea.. moral reasons make perfect sense and i even encourage it. But health reasons not so much. In fact I'd say it can be a bit harder to be healthy being a vegan or on any restrictive diet simply because you need to be more aware of nutrients you normally get from animal sources. Even just protein can be tricky for some vegans if they dont eat enough beans or tofu or something.
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@freemo @aexiruch
imho, what is healthy regarding to food can be completely different from person to person as long as you get everything that your body needs. not eating preprocessed stuff is nearly always good though.
hot take: ultraprocessed vegan food from around the globe is probably morally worse than locally sourced free-range meat. "think global buy local" :P
I think there is at least some truth to that. The only issue with preprocessed food in terms of health is the salt. Thankfully most people arent salt sensative. So most of the time I dont think preprocessed food makes much of any difference. That said as you say everyone is different so there is always the chance there is some sort of allergic reaction or something to be concerned with.
From the moral and environmental side though thats a whole different ball of wax. In that sense reducing meat intake is likely a very beneficial boon to the environment.
@freemo
i think that every preservation (which preprocessed food essentially is) goes along with a loss in value regarding nutrients. especially the things which are in food in only tiny amounts tend to get lost. i think our bodies are well tuned by evolution to process (and to work best when supplied) fresh food for the most time of the year. i assume the reason that mediterranean or japanese diets are healthy is the amount of fresh, relatively unprocessed ingedients. that said, salt and some other things added to preprocessed food are probably the main reason for them being unhealthy.
