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PSA: shut up about saving the climate, that people shouldn't drive cars, etc., if you ever have put a foot onto a plane.

no, you weren't forced to do that travel. no excuses. you always had a choice and you valued the flight bigger than your fight against pollution or climate change.

@bonifartius

Does travel 20 years back count? We need a Verjährungsfrist on this ;)

No excuses for green, 22 yo students today. I agree.

But then that whole class has to concede that being cultured has nothing to do with travel and leisure.

@CapitalB
> Does travel 20 years back count? We need a Verjährungsfrist on this ;)

it was pretty clear 20 years ago that one trip across the ocean is like abou 10 years driving a car. the co2 calculations were done in the 70s. so, yeah, if the flight was 50 years ago you are off the hook :ablobcool:

> No excuses for green, 22 yo students today. I agree.

greta flying to conferences while the internet and video conferences exist is the biggest slap into the face of thinking people i can imagine.

> But then that whole class has to concede that being cultured has nothing to do with travel and leisure.

💯

@bonifartius

"Yeah. And any environmentalist who exhales is a hypocrite."

@Pat well, oxygen is requird to live.

flights not so much. gretas "take the sail boat one way" was the point i decided it's all bullshit. either do both ways or do a video conference.

@bonifartius

Yes, my comment was sarcastic.

Video meetings use the least energy, (unless the conference is within walking/biking distance).

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