I am older and doing well so I am going to try harder to not be critical of young people that can't even get job callbacks.

@sun@shitposter.world i was talking to a phd student doing ml and python that couldn't get a coding job yesterday

@bonifartius @shibao @sun pretending to be competent in both is a dime a dozen nowadays, but being competent in both not really

@a7 @shibao @sun competent in ML is questionable as skill at best if not on the edge of research, everything else is pretty much consumption of premade models using premade software. "$language" isn't really a selling point except for legacy maintenance. don't know about the guy in question though, maybe he's really got a unique skillset but it's too fringe in this area.

i agree that the area is full of incompetent people who are good at faking competence. most people i met love ultra complex framework systems and can't think without them.

@bonifartius@qoto.org @a7@annihilation.social @sun@shitposter.world this person was doing a phd in mech e, so it was like python and ML for controls, but then she said she was rejected from a controls job because she didn't have enough experience in C++. like hire a programmer like me to do the C++ stuff then, the controls part is the harder part. i don't get this current job market, I feel like people are just making excuses not to hire and all the current offers on the market are known to be bad ("yeah it's in office every day because the boss is kind of an asshole and he needs to manage everyone irl every day. anyways, we can't find any more devs in the area", true story)

@shibao @bonifartius @sun @a7

I get recruiter emails every day. The latest one was "Come do bash scripting for us. We pay $90/hr and it's a contract position for 8 months." I was getting $160/hr back in 1999 hacking on FiberChannel drivers for Solaris kernel. I suspect the biggest problem is that wages went way down, while people have a hard time downgrading their standard of living.

@shibao @sun @zaitcev @a7 big brain move would be to just use whatever language you like and calling that from a wrapper shell script :P

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@shibao @sun @zaitcev @a7 if someone complains tell them it's what shell scripting is doing all the time anyway :blobcatsmug:

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