Arguing men shouldnt have a right to an opinion on abortion because they can only be the victim of abortion and never the executor is like arguing women shouldnt have an opinion on rape because they are typically the victim and not the executor.

We all started our lives as fetuses and would have been effected by abortion laws, and as such we all should have a right to an opinion on the matter.

@freemo Of course everyone has a right to their opinion on any subject.

But it does seem clear that while men are not unaffected, women *are* disproportionately affected and their voices should therefore hold more weight on the subject.

And the inverse holds true as well. Men's voices carry more weight when it comes to men's issues, such as the legality and ease of access to Viagra.

@louis @freemo
> And the inverse holds true as well. Men's voices carry more weight when it comes to men's issues, such as the legality and ease of access to Viagra.

access to viagra isn't killing small humans.

@bonifartius @freemo One could argue that a lack of it does. Ultimately it just depends on when you think life starts and whether or not you're willing to use violence to enforce that belief.

@louis @freemo life starts at inception. that many fetuses die in the first weeks doesn't change this.

i don't think violence solves anything, it just shifts problems.

@bonifartius @louis @freemo Abortion is never illegal for the wealthy. Abortion bans are class warfare.

@Ponygirl @louis @freemo
a ban always is enforced by threat of violence. i specifically wrote that violence doesn't solve this (or any) problem.

class warfare is a bullshit collectivist concept.

did you seek out other threads of freemo because you are now agnostic? :)