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consider:

- we don't have a free market here. everything is overregulated. half of income gets extracted and then put into companies who did the best "lobbying" (bribes).
- measuring success by "high speed train exists" is a fallacy. those prestige projects always work in collectivist systems, that's why the pyramids exist. just takes enough resources and people to make the problem go away. keeping the high speed trains going over decades is where it is.
- china isn't successful because of communism, it's successful for allowing just enough capitalist flexibility to sell things to the west and by ignoring effects on people and environment.

@bonifartius @reverend china isn't even really communist, it's a managed capitalism das kapital speedrun to someday transition to actual communism
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@sun @reverend what's stange is that there is chinese stuff which seems to be priced fair. solid product, without insane but fair profit. wonder how the price would be if they wouldn't have to price in the communist enterprise.

@sun @reverend one got to admit them that they fixed their "everyone is starving" problem while becoming the factory for the world. i don't think it's due to their socialism though.

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