+bonifartius 𒂼𒄄 @bonifartius@qoto.org

@Hyolobrika@mstdn.io
- not getting injected with bs soup and getting fucked by the government and zealots for this. i had few problems to comply with masks and distancing, but i wont get forced to get these vaccines. saying that getting my live fucked up because of my refusal is right in any sense is just plain evil.

- not buying into ukraine & the west being in more ethical than russia. notwithstanding that war is bad and putin started it, the west is evil too. we started many wars. we are in no position to claim any high ground here. given that we supposedly have more freedoms and rights than russians, we as the populace should've prevented the decades of western wars in the middle east.

etc.

people wishing misfortune upon me because i don't go along with the latest fad of "whats right".

people throwing lingo like "gaslighting", "whataboutism", etc. because they are too dense to acknowledge that people can have different opinions which can be valid at the same time.

soulless beings incapable of the thought that not everything is based in pure logics (which they in all likelihood never learned to use properly anyway). having a solid set of moral foundations is considered a flaw by these philosophical zombies.

i'm really fucking done with NPCs.

@h4890
> You know what I mean and yet you choose to make the worst possible interpretation. I will not engage with you anymore unless you can step up to a mature conversation.

godspeed! :)

@phagusX

@Elfie i was more thinking about the spite of those people if they again have the feeling of being in an "in-group". but fake it till you make it also is bad and annoying, yes :)

@h4890
> Ah, but this is the fallacy of "whataboutism". Just because someone did something wrong in the past, does not mean that anyone has the right to do this without being criticized in the future.

well, if "the past" for historic events is a few months ago. we fucking bombed the middle east to shreds for decades, based on lies about WMD. i'm not talking about vietnam here.

> Yes, west has done horrible things, but that is in the past and we learned from our mistakes.

even the fucking greens are warmongers now, the same time they wave the rainbow flag. it's at best a disgrace. nobody learned a single thing.

> What russia is doing is still wrong, and they should pay compensation and withdraw. [...]

war is bad.

the west at least could be honest about that it doesn't care for the people of ukraine but that it's about geostrategic things. because if you care about people, you'd not have shelled 3rd world countries for the bigger part of the last century. the west is in no imaginable way morally better than russia now. the west only is triggerd because it's a western country now.

> Also, yes, there are western propaganda outlets, but freedom of press is way higher and censorship way lower in the west. If you are intelletcually honest it is very easy for you to get closer to the truth in the west compared with china or russia where censorship is heavy and you will be imprisoned for questioning the current status quo.

well, you just get cancelled in the west if you say the wrong things. that's of course better than rotting in jail and getting beaten up. the trend is to ban "misinformation" here, i can't see where that's not censorship. those ideas aren't a slippery slope, those ideas are a vertical cliff.

> your ideas about a war involving NATO to end the war

"the war to end all wars"? great idea, worked well in the past.

@phagusX

interesting that many people who were depressed are turning into better-than-you types if not depressed anymore.

@stellakarasu https://theoutline.com/post/1249/what-happens-when-you-stare-at-the-sun

@markuzcha thanks, at least i haven't gone completely mad then :)

@ZacWilson @SmedleyButler gotta love the "make us more money in the long term and we donate some peanuts short term" idea. some real humanists there, trying to profit from war :)

@markuzcha
this contails tinfoil.

i'm not known for being optimistic :)

EU imports between 25 and 50% (depending if oil, gas or coal) of it's fossil energy from russia. as things look now, we will probably ban them to our own peril. add the already exploding inflation to that. my vote is that in 22 shit will hit the fan, at least economically, and the financial bubbles we already had in the 20xxs will look tame in comparison.

the problem is, due to the inflation the west can't bail out too large to fail banks this time. well, it can, but then inflation goes even higher.

in this climate, people have no will to fight and the governments will use it. i don't think that people will starve in masses here in europe, but many will not be able to e.g. pay their mortgages effectively giving banks ownership for many houses. or even rent, because those will raise as much as possible too. homes need heating in winter which will, from my gut feeling at least cost double as much.

food may get drastically expensive. hungary already prevented grain exports for '22. let's hope we will not see a dry (or too wet) summer again.

one effect (tinfoily): people not wanting the vaccine in e.g. germany where the democratic leaders are going through with mandates will have to pay 2500€ as fine. that will be 2500€ few will have spare, so they will in essence be forced. decide to keep your freedom to decide about your body, freeze in the winter?

another effect (more tinfoily): gas already is at 2€, we will only have shitty electric cars in a few years. where the government has the ability to just cut the power over night to prevent charging cars in case they need to prevent people from rapidly moving.

i could go on with fringy theories, but things look rather bleak from my perspective. to close with a meme: people will eat the bugs and they will like it, because at least they have something to eat.